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Hi Everyone;

Hoot here. It's been my nickname since my fondness of Hoot Gibson as a young boy.

I currently own:
H&K G3 with Japanese TASCO 2-7x32
FAL Izzy with Monarch 4-12x40
M14 with Sightron SII 3-9x42
BAR in .330 Win Mag with Simmons 3-10x44 (Original 44Mag)

I just finished building an A3 flat top  Hbar Poodle Shooter and am considering a scope for it. As you can tell from my choice of scopes, I'm not cheap, but I don't pay more for the scope than the gun. Those of you who choose to do so, I'm happy for you. Please respect my choices also.

Right now, I'm looking to expand my medium priced horizons and am considering either a Grand Slam 6-20 or 4200 4-16 or 6-24 for it. I may go shorter though and get another SII, but 3-12x42. I'll be mainly punching paper with it or Prairie Dogging at medium ranges. I really want to see if the 4200 is all it's cracked up to be, but there are some great deals on Grand Slams despite the yuppy silver finish. Nothing some Duracoat couldn't cure.

Opinions as to bang-for-buck content of my choices? I've read all the threads I could find on each of them with deference to Tbone's scale.

Thanks,

Hoot

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/26/2007 at 20:32
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I forgot to mention that I was in all likelihood, going to make a move tonight.

Thanks,

Hoot

Edit: Having just read the wording at their web site, it appears that Bushnell offers no warranty for the Elite if you are not the original owner, so the used one I was eyeing on Ebay is out of consideration. Too bad, it was going for a very reasonable price.

Edit: Was going for a reasonable price. Someone paid $325 for a scope with no warranty...


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Go with the Sightron.  It is a real deal lifetime warranty.
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elite 4200 has the best glass of the bunch you mentioned.

 

and don't worry about the warranty, you will be keeping the scope as it's a great buy.

 

Welcome to the OT!!!

 

J

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Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

elite 4200 has the best glass of the bunch you mentioned.

 

and don't worry about the warranty, you will be keeping the scope as it's a great buy.

 

Welcome to the OT!!!

 

J



Thanks. As I've been perusing my options, I've kept Tbone's list as a guide. That and reading about a hundred posts here before registering. I am the most interested in the 4200 series. Much to my regret, in trying to get the most for my money, I keep finding excellent deals on used ones and despite assurances that I'll not need the warranty, my luck would be that I will need it at some point. If a scope is truly reliable, why would a company limit it's warranty to the original owner. Obviously, not all companies do that. I don't want something for nothing, just a fair shake for my hard-earned farthings. If Nikon only warrants a refurbished scope for 90 days, what happens when you send the one you bought new in and it gets repaired? Is the repaired one only warranted for an additional 90 days? If it's still warranted for life, then they're jerkin' you off with that 90 day policy. That's strictly punitive with no bearing on reliability of the refurbishment.

To date, I've been the most impressed with the Sightron SII 3-9x42 I bought in terms of sharpness, light gathering capability and forgiving eye relief. More impressed with it than my Monarch 4-12 actually. There are excellent deals available on new SII 3-12x42's and Grand Slam 6-20's right now. I'm going to bundle up my scopes and take them to the range this afternoon to determine if I really need (vs want) more magnification than 12x. Top of my list right now is the 4200 4-16, but I have a name witheld  6-24x50 on my .17HMR and a nickel on my desk at work with 5 holes in it, shot at 100 yds with that scope. It's nice having the extra power range for target and varminting. Especially with these deteriorating 52 year old eyes of mine.

Whatever I wind up getting, I'll post my impressions here afterwards.

Thanks,

Hoot



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if you can stretch and get the 4200, you may also want to look at the KX series by kahles.

 

it is top of the line glass/coatings for mid-level pricing.

 

i have also heard good things about sightron SII's and SIII's -

 

i would IMO stay away from the grandslams - not too much overwhelming feedback from the users here.

 

good luck.

 

J

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Well, despite the temptation to hold out for a pending auction for a used Elite 4200 4-16x40 on Friday, I couldn't restrain myself and got a new 4200 6-24x40 for $369.95 instead! It has the 1/4 MOA dot on fine duplex hairs I like. Could have gotten the Mil-Dot instead but I'm not fond of that reticle. TMI  By far, the most I've ever spent on a scope and exactly what I paid for the A3 Flat Top kit it's going on, minus the stripped lower. I'm excited to get it and see how it compares to my other scopes, not to mention how it delivers at the range. Depending upon when it gets shipped, I could feasibly have it mounted, bore-sighted and at the range this weekend.

Thanks to everyone who contributed posts in the many threads I poured over getting to this point, as well as Tbone and his fabled list. I'll definitely submit a range report when I get it out there and play with it. I'll temper my expectations with the fact that the bore, though polished and treated with Moly Fusion, is not broken in at all yet.

Hoot

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