| 12ptdroptine wrote:|
That part about Bushnell doing aexcellent job of making a flp scope modeled after the Leupold $800 for only $300 is the part that bother's me... Is it research and develop" or recon and duplicate. I hate it when a company copie's something and take's it out of our country along with the job's it created and then import's it back for us to support and buy.. Now maybe This scope is made here in the state's. And I am wrong If so then I am wrong in this case. But acording to my paper last night we are at an unemployment level of 8.1% the highest in over 25 year's... Spend your money the way you see fit ..I am trying to buy in a way to save our job's. By the way I bought the Leupold. None of my Leupold products have ever let me down.. I cant say that about........Never mind. Drop
| smitty wrote:|
Size is nearly identical,
Fit and finish, both excellent. Bushnell has larger grips on the focus and mag. Leupold has smaller grips on focus and no grips smooth mag adjustment. Both are equally tight.
The snug case on the Bushnell is stiched nicer and fits better that the snug case of the Leupold. I really expected more from Leupold here and it didn't even come with a lens cap.
Regarding the 'B' on the front of the Bushnell, you don't know its there with the snug case on which is how I think most of us would use it.
Longer distance than 300 yards was not viewed. If there is a difference that might be where it would seen. I will scope the mountian ranges with both scope next time we go shooting and let you know what I see.
I didn't post this to slam Leupold but to state my observations looking thru both scopes. Point is that the Excursion is a darn good scope for the price. Bushnell did an excellent job of making a FLP scope modeled after the $800 Leupold and is selling it for under $300. That's something worth noting and frankly, I didn't see a difference other than the Bushnell having more magnification bringing the image 5 x closer.
That is an admirable and honorable sentiment and I commend you for it. The situation is, however, a bit more complicated than I think you are giving it credit. Bushnell, for example, operates a large organization here in the USA. When you buy from them, you are helping secure those Americans' jobs just as assuredly as you are when you buy from Leupold.
The other issue is that even Leupold has taken much of their "manufacturing" out of the country, including to China, to save profits. Only the Golden Ring products are assembled (note not "made") in the USA and are marked as such. However, even with these products, the parts for them are imported from international markets.
Most "American Made" vehicles are likewise assembled from parts coming out of places outside of the USA and many "foreign" vehicles are made right here in the USA.
Then there's firearms. The handguns arguably most popular among law enforcement agencies, our military, civilians, etc. (Glock, Sig, H&K, Beretta, etc.) are all foreign products. Smith & Wesson and Ruger which are both "All American" products don't garner near the market share. S&W at one time did, but they have lagged behind for some time now.
The simple reality is that there is no avoiding the international market. Even "buying American" doesn't work because Americans have pretty much decided that they are above doing menial manufacturing chores, but still demand the products that those menial chores produce.
Edited by lucznik - March/07/2009 at 10:23