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Kickboxer
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I certainly have no problem with the idea of a 2.5x fixed. Even Leupold might be able to make a good one of those.... |
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tahqua
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As long as it's not in low light, at those ranges and in heavy cover. To resolve targets in these conditions it takes magnification. I stuck by my 4x Burris for years until I started running into these exact problems. For a dangerous game rifle a compromise has to be made, to some extent. The large field of view is very important and the 2.5 Leo along with the 1.5-5 certainly have that. I found the 1.1-4x24 Kahles to be a far better compromise, though. I have the large field of view along with the contrast, resolution and low light capability that lets me take all kinds of shots, the glass is that good. I can't take the shots I can with a 2.2-9x42 C, but the compromise is worth it. |
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Big Squeeze
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Low lite dangerous game hunting won`t be on my plate. For someone who is, the Kahles is a great choice. I like dangerous game animals when I can see them clearly in enough light with my own eyes first. Then, I`ll look through a scope and shoot one.
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John Barsness
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The .458 Lott is a different kind of beast. Scopes that will hold together on a .416 or a .458 Winchester will come apart on a Lott. In fact, noted custom riflemaker D'Arcy Echols refuses to even put customer's scopes on .458 Lotts any more, because they usually go belly-up during testing, wasting his time. (One of D'Arcy's Lotts was sent to Leupold to see what might work--and the result was their recommendation that variables not be mounted on one.) Despite modern variables being tougher, fixed power scopes still have an advantage. I shoot a lot of rifles and even more scopes, and virtually all the problems I've had with scopes (and there is quite a list) have been with variables.
The 2.5x Leupold is as tough a hunting scope as you'll find for big calibers. It is a little short, but I have mounted one on a CZ 550 Magnum (a very long a bolt action) by putting the front end of the scope inside the front ring. When doing this you have to be careful not to put the ring around the front lens.
I have seen more 1.5-5x Leupolds on professional hunter's rifles in Africa than all other scopes put together (though not on .458 Lotts). Another good scope for big rifles of slightly lesser recoil than the .458 Lott is the 1.75-5x32 Burris Signature Safari. This has plenty of eye relief, and with the 32mm objective is pretty bright. I have had one on a variety of larger rifles from 9.3's to .458 Winchesters over the past several years without a problem.
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pyro6999
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im intrested to see how the new monarch african pans out, i think this is nikons first real stab at a legit dgr scope. if they are tough enough my H&H may wear one some day soon.
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Kickboxer
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Sir,
Let me be the first to say "Welcome to the OT". Your inputs are highly valued. Very glad to see you aboard.
Vr,
Dan
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John Barsness
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Dan,
Thanks very much! I lurked here a little before joining on, like it a lot. It seems that the folks here are into discussing rather than cussing, as they are on some other Internet sites....
JB
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pyro6999
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well, we try to cuss behind closed doors if at all possible some of us slip from time to time like me!
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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Kickboxer
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I've been working on my "people skills".
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Opinion,untempered by fact,is ignorance.
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RifleDude
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Welcome to OT, John! I hope you find this to be an enjoyable place to hang out. We will all benefit from your contributions!
I very much enjoy reading your work!
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Ted
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300S&W
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+1 JB! GOOD bunch of people here,regulars and visitors. PLUS the only site with a real "OPTICS GODDESS"!
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tahqua
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The same here. This is a huge bonus for everyone. Doug |
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John Barsness
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For me as much as anybody. It is always good to hang out with a bunch of enthustiastic rifle people!
JB
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Tip69
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Welcome John and thanks for stopping in. I look forward to reading about your thoughts and experiences!
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take em!
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cheaptrick
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Welcome to Optics Talk, John Barsness!! Glad your here!
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John Barsness
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Thanks! I'm glad to be here, among a bunch of other rifle loonies.
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300S&W
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Nikon's Monarch African Safari line of scopes look GOOD. Their 1-4x20mm has a 100yd FOV of 92.9ft! Plus it's got a #4 reticle. Anyone had their paws on one?
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koshkin
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I only saw it at SHOT. 30mm models seemed just about identical to a half dozen or so of other similarly configured scopes since that it a popular configuration nowadays. If memory serves me right, the eyerelief spec is a bit optimistic. 1" tube model is a bit less common, but there is always the very inexpensive Weaver V3 with similarly wide field of view. ILya |
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300S&W
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Thanks ILya. Shame about the E/R specs but then Nikon isn't the only manuf. who specs are off. Oh well,I've got enough low power optics for now but I'm always being tempted.
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Ed Connelly
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I have an idea. Why don't we simply use iron sights on a 458 Lott. You won't be shooting buffalo at 300 yards.
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