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I am shooting a 223 at the local 100 and 200 yard range and really have little need for a zoom scope.  Something that is around 20x or better for printing tiny groups would be nice that would also let me see the bullet holes.  I also prefer a MOA reticle and knobs that are also MOA.  Any scope that can fit the bill?
 
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How about the SWFA  SS 16 X 42? It goes for around $300. 
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

How about the SWFA  SS 16 X 42? It goes for around $300. 
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They also have a fixed 20X too.
 
SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 16x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS16X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
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SWFA SS 20x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 20x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS20X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
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He wants MOA reticle and MOA adjustments.  I agree, I like MOA better...
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Were you looking for something that is varible or fixed?

Personally I do not like none matching optics.
MOA (minute of angle) is an angular measurement and so is (MIL) miliradian.  It is a coincidence that when MOA is converted into a linear measurement that it subtends 1.047 inches at 100 yards.  That is so close to 1” that most people consider it to be 1” at 100 yards.  So a scope with .25 MOA adjustments translates to each click moving the reticle .25 of an inch at 100 yards.

It is a coincidence that 1/10 of a mil is 1 centimeter at 100 meters so most people go with metrics linear measurements for mil scopes.  MOA and MIL are not standard and metric measurements they are simple angular measurements, many people think mil is metric but it is not.

If you can make your brain stop having to apply a linear measurement to your angular adjustments it is quite a bit easier to use a mil scope.  You do this by using the reticle as a ruler to adjust for how much you missed the target.  Say you are shooting 864 yards and you miss low, if you can see how much you missed then you put the reticle on where you were aiming and count how many mils it is to where your shot actually went.  If it was 2.5 mils, then you just turn your elevation 2.5 mils in the direction you missed.  It does not matter how far or how close you are shooting because it is an angular measurement.  Mix matched scopes will soon be a thing of the past as it makes no sense to combine the two in one scope.  All scopes with mil based reticles should have mil based clicks, I think in five years mil scopes with moa adjustments will be obsolete.
You can find a significant amount of information on  Mil-Dot and  Snipers Hide.
Here's another helpful tool as well.


Our 5-20x utilizes a first focal plane reticle that gets larger as the magnification increases so that it is always subtending the same measurements regardless of magnification, so you can use the reticle on any power setting.  There is no impact shift either, you will hit the same spot regardless of magnification setting.
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The 16 or 20 SS would be a very nice choice. And even better if they offered them in a Kit form like they do with the 10x.

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