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after much reading on optics talk it seems that a fixed power scope would work well---i will be shooting pd and ground squirrels at max 350 yards (usually 100-200yards)---rifle .204 cooper in daylight---a scope of 12x to 16x looks like what i may need---i am interested in learning what the group would suggest and if this is logical---i just found the leupold FX III 6x42 with the LR duplex reticle available---what other manufacturers make fixed power scopes---i know most target scopes are fixed high power but that is probably not what i need---what do you guys think?---other option, of course, is a variable---the zeiss conquest 6.5-20x50 is at the top of my list at the moment 
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Leupold has the 12x fixed scopes.  http://www.swfa.com/showcategory.aspx?categoryid=94&sb=Name&so=asc&page=2

IOR has 10x and 16x scopes under their tactical line.

You have the SWFA SS scopes in 10 and 16x  http://www.swfa.com/c-2760-swfa-ss-scopes.aspx
Sightron has a 12x scope. http://www.swfa.com/pc-10608-1511-new-sightron-12x42-sii-big-sky-riflescope.aspx

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I have a 204 also. Mounted a 6x24x40 Elite 4200 mil-dot. For me I have found the best around 12X seems to be a good number for me......but I like the extra power with my eyes it comes in handy.....
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Nothing wrong with going with a fixed power scope for pd shooting.  If I were getting a fixed scope, I'd go with something between 10X - 16X and no more.  Most of the time, I have my variables set between 12X - 14X for most of my shots at pd's, even out to the longest distances.
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Yeah, that's where mine usually end up set too, around 12x or maybe a little more, depending the individual's scope field of view.

I had a fixed 12x Leupold for a while and it worked great on a .223 and .220 Swift. Can't remember why I sold it!

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    One of my favorite scopes was my Leupold 12X.
 
    Sightron makes a fixed 12X in their Big Sky series. And the Weaver KT-15 is a very overlooked scope....though the plex reticle may be a bit big for distant 'dogs. Looks like Weaver has dropped the KT-15 from it's lineup. But you can still find them new.  -Al
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 All good advice here, based on my limited P-dog extermination program. I shot them with a .223 and a 3-9X  Vari-XII. It worked fine, but I really felt that 12x to around perhaps 16x would have been even  more fine!
 Little need for any low-end magnification here. A fixed power should be perfectly adequate, and should give you some extra glass quality and other perks over a variable, dollar for dollar.
 
 
 
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I like to dial back to spot them, that way I don't have to use the binoculars as much.  Tried a 10x one time and it just wasn't quite enough for me.
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If you hunt where mirage is an issue, a variable has some pluses. A 6.5-20 Leupold or Nikon would work well.
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Originally posted by tooldude tooldude wrote:

I like to dial back to spot them, that way I don't have to use the binoculars as much.  Tried a 10x one time and it just wasn't quite enough for me.
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I would go with the super sniper Smile10x and a good set of rings and mounts
like the badger rings and rail .  You would have about 500 in optics but for a fixed power it would be hard to beat for p dogs  and it would be a rugged setup that will take a beating when you are making it a long weekend shooting.
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I have used the 12x Leupold before and find it to be an excellent scope. Like several Leupold products, it is just one of those scopes that just is a stand out.
I presently have a few 3-12 and 6-24 scopes and I don't see where the 12x would be a constraint. Unless, the shots were under fifty or so yards.
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That's why I generally carry a .22 handgun along with a rifle, for those charging dogs that come at you from under 50 yards....
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I dunno John, for close in charges I'd prefer something larger.
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Well, if the dogs are running really big I sometimes carry a bigger gun--but it's hard to beat an accurate semi-auto like my Ruger Mark II "slabside." There's something to be said for rapid repeat fire, even if you call it spray-and-pray!
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Originally posted by John Barsness John Barsness wrote:

That's why I generally carry a .22 handgun along with a rifle, for those charging dogs that come at you from under 50 yards....
 
You can't let them scurrying little buggers form alliances and execute a full-on charge without protecting yourself!!!  They've got pretty sharp teeth!Wink
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And for short-legged little rodents they sure can run fast...
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Currently i'm using 3 rigs for PD's, a 17 Fireball XP-100 handgun that has the 6-18x Nikon Buckmasters mil-dot reticle on top. I also have a custom AR 223 AI with a 4-16x Weaver using a custom T. K. Lee reticle that looks like this--
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...(less the dashes of course) all 3 MOA apart for elevation and 4 MOA windage. Dots are 3/8,1/4, and 1/8" top to bottom. Windage dots are 1/8".
 
 My most recent setup that hasn't seen action yet is a Savage BR action, McGowen 16" barrel 225 Win. I have a Unertl BV-20 on top with another T.K. Lee reticle that looks like this--
 
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All 1/8th" dots 3 MOA apart, with the 2nd line in the optical center of the scope. I love the T. K. Lee system.
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I wish I had a picture. We were in ELKHART, KS PD shooting brother in law lays down blanket and sets up to shoot off sticks. He had one run across his SPACE....words can not describe the scene of a 220lb man trying to get away from a 1/2lb PD. I still laugh about it, its like it was in slow motion a cherished moment that he will NEVER LIVE down.......MAN IT WAS FUNNY
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When I lived in Wyoming before joining the Air Force 22 years ago I used a 22-250 with a Leupold 24X and a 223 with a Burris 12X.  Both worked fine in the morning, but as the heat picked up and the gun warmed up, the 24X scope became difficult to see the prairie dogs due to mirage and heat coming off the barrel.  Once the mirage set in, I would use the 12X scope out to 300 yards and then use the 24X for the longer shots, typically there were not as many 300+ shots.

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