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Can anyone recommend a good inexpensive ( - $100)  fixed 4X scope for deer hunting on a Winchester 70 LA, is there such a thing ?

 

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The cheapest of decent 4x scopes that I know of is Weaver K4 (~$125).  If you expand your range a bit (up to $200 or so) there will be more quality options with Burris Short Mag 4x20 (~$180) and Sightron S2 4x32 (~$200) my recommendations.

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Check out #4012 on the SampleList.  We have a used M8 4X33 gloss for $149.95.

 

Doesn't get any better than that for under $200.

 

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David, although that is a very good price on a Leupold scope, your statement: "Doesn't get any better than that for under $200" is very, very arguable.

 

Have you had a chance to look at that scope side by side with any one of the three I mentioned above?  Try it some time.  You might be in for a surprise.

 

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Hard to pass up a scope with multi coat 4, and the best customer service in the nation, for 150 bucks.

 

I have compared many scopes side by side, and honestlly it is hard to tell much differences between any of them in the same price range.

 

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M8 4x33, if I understand this correctly, does not have Multicoat 4.  It is single layer MgF coated.  The only M8 scope with multicoat 4 was a 6x42 (a decent scope, but not top in its price range either).  The new FX-II 4x33 does have a Multicoat (and is an excellent scope, byt the way).

 

On top of that I think that a M8 4x33 has friction adjustments instead of click adjustments.  I do not know how much difference it makes though.  That's certainly a personal choice as I like click adjustments.

 

As for Leupold's warranty, while it is a nice feature, I've never bought a scope because of the warranty.

 

Basically, what I am trying to arrive to is that I think Weaver K4 is a better scope (IMO) than Leupold M8 4x33, and yes, I have seen both side by side.  At lower magnifications the difference between different glass is not as pronounced, but it is still there especially in low light.  I was once curious about this and I took a few 4x scopes I had at the time out to compare them after sunset.  Not surprisingly IOR was the best one (and the most expensive one) I have.  Burris 4x20 suffered a little from a smaller exit pupil.  Sightron S2 4x32 was very good and Weaver K4 was not all that far behind.  Leupold M8 4x33 suffered from inferior optics, but had very forgiving eye relief roughly equivalent to SIghtron's eye relief.  Although, Burris 4x20 has longer eye relief and would be my choice on a kicker. Interestingly I was not especially impressed with Nikon Buckmaster 4x40, but Monarch 4x40 was very nice, albeit pricy.

 

Of the expensive German scopes, the onyl 4x I've seen was a Kahles and although I did not spend too much time with it, it did not offer any advantage over a much cheaper IOR 4x32.

 

Of all the 4x scopes I've had over the last few years, I've kept two: Burris Compact 4x20 and IOR 4x24 tactical with CQB reticle.  Unfortunately, I traded my Sightron, but I might get another one.

 

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So there aren' t any decent 4x for under $100.00 ? are there any decent low variable power for the same price ?
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Originally posted by hank hank wrote:

So there aren' t any decent 4x for under $100.00 ? are there any decent low variable power for the same price ?

 

I would say that there are also no decent low powered variable scopes available for under a $100 new.

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As already stated, if you can move up to $200 your choices will increase greatly. The best SWFA deal going is the 3X9 Bushnell 4200 for just over $250, if you want a variable.  It seems as though 4X scopes with trim lines have vanished from some of the popular brands. I am sure the Burris is nice but that 20mm lense doesn't suit me. The Sightron is trim looking and the glass is supposed to be really good. By the way, Hank, what caliber on that M70?

 

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  http://www.murphyshotguns.com/   A shotgun dealer near Augesta Kansas has a bucket (yes bucket full ) of used

Weaver K4 scopes all are under 75 dollars last time I looked. You may contact them and have them pull a good one out for you. They are good people but only do shotgun theings. they have great range setup for shotgun stuff. The old weavers if they are in good shape are a good 4 power scope for the money

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Koshin is right, as he often is, that you can not go wrong with the Weaver K4 for an inexpensive scope.  Shot my first decent 8 Point with one.
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