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I'm trying to choose my first scope for a new 270 I just purchased.  Something in a 3x9x40 for the 50 to 250 yard hunting I'll be doing.  My vision struggles with astigmatism and nearsightedness.  Bright optics, easily adjusted diopter are critical to me.  Lower mounts on the rifle are also very important to me.  I had trouble shooting a 50mm scope and even a 40, to some extent.  I could not get my cheek down on a Model 70 with a 40mm Zeiss Conquest without folding a wool cap across the stock.  Wanted to stay under $1,000 and preferably around $400 to $700.  Scopes I've been thinking about include Zeiss Conquest, Leupold VX-L, Leupold LPS and Leupold VX-III.  I've heard the LPS had some W/E adjustment issues when it first hit the market.  I've also been told the Zeiss has excellent glass, but average accuracy with the W/E (which most hunters don't use much) and the Leupolds had above average glass with excellent W/E accuracy.  I will probalby enjoy doing a little range shooting and want the accuracy and the clarity.  Do I have to spend big bucks to get both?
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Welcome to The OT!!

 

Go with the Conquest, friend.

3-9x40 should serve you well.

 

You could also go with a 3.5-10x44mm, which would be a good setup to shoot at the range as well.

I ran this scope particular scope and I loved it.  

 

Your bad cheek weld....Was it due to the fact that the rings were too high or did I miss something??

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While I totally agree with cheaptrick that a Conquest would be a great choice for Tenderfoot, I have to give another suggestion for him to check out.  If you have the opportunity, check out a Kahles CL 3x9 42mm.  I have one with the 50mm objective & I can honestly say it is worth every penny I paid SWFA for it.  The field of view is massive (take a look through one side by side with a Leupold VX III, Swarovski AV, Conquest, heck any 1" scope out there) and the brightness & clarity of the glass is amazing.  SWFA is offering them for $798 so it should fit into your budget.

Hope this helps & best of luck with whatever decision you make!  There are many here that know more about rifle optics than I could ever dream to know so you came to the right place to get some assistance.

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Will certainly do that as well!  Thanks again for the advice, Ceylonc!
 
Thanks for the advice, Cheaptrick.  I'm primarily a shotgunner and we get that cheekbone down on the comb with the head forward.  Shot two different Model 70's with Conquests.  The first was the first time I ever shot a rifle and I was struggling to find proper eyerelief, etc.  The second, a friend took me to his farm where we took our time on his range and he gave me a proper intro to rifle shooting.  I shot three 1.5" groups with his 30-06 at 75 yards, but with my head up in what seemed an unnatural shooting position. My lower cheek was on the stock but the cheekbone didn't rest on the top of the comb as it does in shotgunning.  He and the other gun owner both say they have low or medium mounts.  I think the 30-06 had medium (for the bolt to clear, maybe?)  I experimented with what felt like a comfortable shooting position to me and it required I "build up the stock" by folding my wool cap across the comb.  With that, I could lay my head in a relaxed position and shot much better. I realize I need alot of work on the range with technique and a good coach.  Maybe a rifle with a straigher stock?  But that experience left me very intrigued with the VX-L.  But there are issues of objective lens caps, new to the market, etc. Is my issue scope mount height or technique? or both? 
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Tenderfoot,

 

I just found a Kahles CL 3x9 42mm for $649 on SWFA's "Sample List".  That is a heck of a deal on an incredible scope.  Here is a link:

http://www.samplelist.com/

 

Best of luck to you.

 

p.s.--as a side note, if resale value is important to you, I'd think twice before I ponied up the funds for a Leupold VX-L...

 



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Another vote here for the Kahles CL 3-9X42.  I have a lot of astigmatism and am very nearsighted.  This is the easiest scope to get the right sight picture that I have seen.  If they weren't $800 I'd have more than one.

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