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Well, I need to start hearing from all you fellers who know about fine shotguns because I don't know much about them...except that I sure do admire them. 
 
This gun store that I pester constantly has all kinds of stuff in there that makes me crazy ( that's why I shouldn't go in there anymore...).  
 
They have some LC Smiths and some AH Fox shotguns and a Browning Superposed and several Winchester 101s and all kinds of goodies.  Some of the prices are sky high, of course, for restored Parkers, etc., but some of these shotguns don't seem to be too terribly high-----they're just....umm.....' a lot of money'  Bucky     Laugh   [  like.....$ 800-900 ]    Shocked
 
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I saw a refinished [ not restored ] AH Fox Sterlingworth 12 gauge that was absolutely beautiful for the princely sum of $895............. Stare
 
Here is an Internet picture of a Fox Sterlingworth ......
 
 
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Ah come on Ed...loosen up the purse strings and grab a couple. Those classics are definitely neat. I'd also like to have a couple.
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I have picked up the double gun bug in the last several years. I have a nice set of Pidgeon Grade 101's. One is a 26" 12 ga choked IMP/M. The other is a 27" 20 ga choked S/S. They make a beautiful pair of O/U's IMO.
My most recent score was DeHaan 28" 28 ga S/S. It handles like a wand and my averages on woodcock and grouse have improved with it.
I am going to get a Spanish double next, AyA or Ugartechea, more than likely.
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I'm so glad you saw this thread, Tahqua!!  I knew that you and your brother had neat shotguns and shot birds and things with them!!!  
 
I have always admired all of those fine guns, but I am not much of a shotgunner.  The neatest shotgun I ever had was a Model 12 Winchester.  But, I always liked doubles. The AyA always fit me the best when I threw them up to my shoulder in a gun store!! 
 
This AH Fox Sterlingworth that I held the other day was an older Philadelphia gun and had the barrels re-blued in a beautiful soft blue, the locks were polished white (no more case colors ), the wood was refinished and was gleaming golden brown, and the checkering had been re-cut, naturally, and someone had added a little extra checkering to the side--at the wrist---in a little shield shape, like all the more expensive guns have. It also has a ventilated pad added that has been there since, oh, probably World War II. The gun seemed to fit me pretty good but I could probably use another half an inch of length. 
 
The action was real tight. I thought an old gun like that would just fall open like a loaf of bread, but I had to really pull on it to break it open.  Do they tighten them up when they restore shotguns?  Anyway, it was totally gorgeous....just not original anymore, of course. But a genuine pre-1930 AH Fox shooter that looks really snazzy!!   Big Grin
 
I really liked it. The bores were shiny and bright. You need sunglasses to look down there!!   Cool   I don't know exactly what the chokes are....and I don't know if it is 2  3/4 or not, either.  Didn't they used to have 2  1/2 inch 12 gauges, too?  
 
That's why I need to talk to all you shotgun experts.....   
 


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Before 1930 the  Sterlingworths did come with both 2 5/8" and 2 3/4" so you have to be carefull there. A friend of mine has both Fox and LC Smith shotguns and they are indeed sweet handling guns.
What was the asking?
I have a very old Stevens S/S 12 ga that handles in a similar way to those other guns. Those makers sure had gun handling right.

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They wanted $895 for that Fox.  They also have several more of them....all more money because they are not refinished, although a lot of them have pads....
 
They also have several LC Smiths.  I looked at one of them, too, ....in my IMAGINARY " price range "  Coffee
 
The LC Smith was an un-fooled-with Field Grade ( pad, of course.....at a funny pitch! ). I really liked it!!  It had quite a bit of case colors left, nice wood, checkering not too sharp anymore, barrels didn't have any crud on them, bright bores!!, and the action fell open when I pushed the lever ----plop!  I felt that my head was a little too high when I threw it to my shoulder but one could practice mounting the gun a little higher on your shoulder---or correct that pad and that pitch...
 
I opened it up and checked for numbers on the flats and saw 206XXX and a letter F ( for Field ).  Later, at home the Internet told me that 206000 was the year 1918.  American Flag
 
 
 
 
 
 
This gun was Mod and Full............30 inch.......the Fox was 28".  
 
 


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Oh, they wanted $875 for the LC Smith.....

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( ahem...)  
 
This Gun Store also has a Browning Superposed.....1954......for $995.  
 
 
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Maybe someone will read this thread...............
 
 
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Well Ed, you've had 70+ hits but, this is something of a special interest area. My Dad loved the Fox, LC Smith and Parkers. He had some beautiful pieces in his collection but, there always seemed to be someone willing to pay his price to take one home. I was 15 when he sold the shop and I was able to handle and clean up some amazing shotguns up until then. I had to function check most of them and then clean them for display. I'm not sure if your interest is in collecting or shooting but, I can share what I remember. The S.Fox were always very tight very well built light shotguns and I don't remember any that didn't knock my teeth loose when fired. I loved the beauty and feel of the Fox but, I dreaded shootin the things. The LC Smith was slightly heavier in weight and often didn't have as much decoration as the Fox. And I recall some of them weren't as tight as the fox, probably due to more field use. They were still on the heavy recoil side but I was between 12 and 15 when he let me start workin with him. And I should mention that he still delt with collecting after the shop was gone. Now the Parker was a great all round collector shotgun. A good vareity of aesthetics and stout build made them one of his and my favorites. Anything from a field grade to the one off gold inlaid master pieces. Most of the ones he had were fairly tight to almost perfect condition and a pleasure to shoot. The only thing that I recall being a common issue with the Parker was the firing pins were soft and would wear down over time. Not a big deal to correct. Infact making firing pins was one of the first things he taught me to do. Many of the Parker were worn to some extent, I think due to when many of them were made and reguardless of the level of aesthetics saw much more field use than the others. So all three are great collectors but for actual use the Parker is my preferred choice. One other you might look at for a useable collector is the Lefever. When ever he aquired one of them I usually wound up with it. Still one of my favorite doubles. In fact since you've started this thread it has sparked a new interest in looking at some of these great shotguns. Good Luck in your search.
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I like fine shotguns, but my wallet don't, at least not yet.  Need to get a good over/under.  How hard are they to change POI?  I like my shotguns to shoot at least 60/40 as I like to "float" the target.
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There are some good aftermarket pitch adjustment kits out there these days. It's far less expensive than a stock or trying to adjust the stock its self. There not that many options available yet but, I think it should catch on once their better known. Its basically a black plastic wedge that fits between the stock and receiver to change the throw of the stock. I don't have a link to offer just yet but, I'll see what I can find. Bennelli offers it for their semi's and I heard rumores of others but, haven's seen any yet.
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 I was looking at a Kassnar ( the importer..) Windsor II double today.  Nice.  This photo is of a Windsor I.  They are made in Spain by I-don't-know-who.    

Churchill Windsor I by Kassnar Side-by-Side Shotgun
 
 
12 Gauge, 25 inch bbls., Lt full and Imp Mod ( I believe ). Extra nice.   Checkered butt. No buttplate.  I liked it.   Bucky      Like New.     $795.     I wonder who made it.  
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Any opinions on the Winchester 101 ??    Coffee

 

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