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What constitutes a good FFP reticle design for a dual purpose scope to be used for both hunting and some long range plinking?  Like a lot of people, I grew up hunting with SFP scopes, and now that I'm spending more time playing around with longer range shooting, find myself contemplating an FFP scope to take advantage of some of their inherent advantages on a rifle that I will be doing both with.  The more I read on FFP scopes, the more I'm seeing statements regarding the importance of reticle layout and design for FFP scopes (moreso than SFP scopes).  What are some examples of well designed FFP reticles that are suitable for hunting at low powers at dusk/dawn in timber, while not being too thick to obscure longer range targets (or prairie dogs) at high power under better lighting conditions?  I'm not looking for "bench rest competition" capable reticles, but rather something that isn't a liability at either shooting extreme.  Does the FFP reticle in Bushnell's new LRHS fit this bill, the FML-1 reticle in March's tactical scopes, or ???  Which particular FFP reticles out there seem to mix and match these demands well?
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It would be tough to beat the SWFA SS reticle.  Just my $0.02.
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I've always found simple is best and prefer SWFA's mil-quad reticle.  Scopes are mil to mil, so no mental math in the head. 

I've used others like the Horus H25 and H58.  Novel concept but just too busy.

I like Nightforce's MLR and NP-R2, but probably because they are simple and like a Mil-dot reticle.

I used SWFA 5-20x on my long range target/hunting rifle but takes practice to hold for distance/wind when the shot doesn't allow you time to dial in adjustments.



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When you're using an FFP scope at low powers, it usually works to simply use the thicker outer crosshairs like you would a duplex scope. Assuming the shot is around your zero or closer, you won't need to do anything (fancy) with the scope but center it on the target. So as long as they're thick enough they'll show up well.

Having shot with iron sights a fair amount, I've gotten used to the notion of covering the target. In other words, provided it hasn't run off, if you can't see it then you're aiming at it. So having somewhat thicker inner crosshairs hasn't bothered me. But if you like to see a prairie dog's tongue at 800 yards, you'll have some research to do.
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I second the SWFA mil-quad.  I have a SS 3-15x42 and the reticle is great at all magnifications.  In low light at 3x it is a tad thin but the heavy outer bars help get you on target and then you can zoom in a little if you like.
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For exclusively low light, simple is better and I'd probably opt for an SFP rather than FFP.  For long range, I am a fan of the "Christmas tree" reticles: yes they may be busy, but the ability to place accurate and precise rounds without spinning turrets is a nice thing.

Add to that, when used at low power, the drop components are almost always unusable, but are also very non-distracting, they simply fade away - mostly.

Most of my hunting rifles also see long range work, so the scopes tend to be tactical scopes that do many things well.  That said, I have a few stalking guns, and they all wear SFP scopes and are always carried at the lowest power.  Seldom do you come upon a shot that requires lots of magnification AND very little time to set up the shot.  The converse is often encountered (short shots with little time and long shots withe plenty of setup time.)
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Great points Mr. Aid.  I'm a big boy so I do my stalking from a blind.  That lets me have time to take a great shot and not be rushed.  Most of my hunting shots are inside 150 yards so it's drop dead simple for me.
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In that case, get an SFP scope with a large objective bell and good glass, don't worry about reticles, #4 works well for you.
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The reticles in the SS scopes have been well thought out.
SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Illuminated Mil Quad SWFA SS HD 5-20x50 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD520X50MQI
  • Patented First Focal Plane Illuminated Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • HD Model
  • Locking Ocular Adjustment
  • 0.1 Mrad Elevation & Windage
  • 10 Mils Per Revolution
  • 30 Mils Of Total Travel
  • Side Focus
$1,499.95 
SWFA SS HD 1-6x24 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS HD 1-6x24 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SSHD16X24D
  • Matte Black Finish
  • First Focal Plane Illuminated Donut (Circle/Mil-Scale)
  • 30mm Tube
  • .10 Mrad, 10 Mils per Rev.
  • HD Model
  • Undercover Turrets
$999.95 
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stalking fast action I like this but eye relief is short for heavy calibers:
Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope Red Triangle Trijicon 1-4x24 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - TR24R
  • Matte
  • Red Triangle
  • 30mm
$1,020.00
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This would be a really sweet scope to have.
Premier Heritage 5-25x56 Tactical 34mm Riflescope Premier Heritage 5-25x56 Tactical 34mm Riflescope
Stock # - PRH10011
  • Matte
  • First Focal Plane Illuminated MOA
  • 34mm
  • Double-Turn 1/4 MOA (96 MOA of Elevation travel)
  • MTC Adjustments
  • Counter-Clockwise
  • Free Flip Open Lens Caps w/ Purchase
$3,521.00 
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Here is one wiht the christmas tree reticle:
U.S. Optics 5-25x58 ER-25 34mm Riflescope U.S. Optics 5-25x58 ER-25 34mm Riflescope
Stock # - USOER25HORUS
  • Parallax Control: T-Pal Left Side Parallax/Focus
  • Tube: 34mm Standard
  • Color: Matte Black Type III Hard Anodizing
  • Eyepiece: Lo Profile - Rapid Focus
  • Includes USO Flip Open Covers
  • Reticle: Horus H-37 (MIL)
  • Digital Push Button Illumination (Red)
  • Knob - EREK 1/10 MIL 110 Click
  • Knob - US#3 1/10 MIL
$3,610.95 


Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - May/11/2014 at 23:26
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