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Okay, so the FFII's have dropped in ranking this year and rank below even Simmons Aetec.  As a general rule, is that because of glass clarity or does it mean these scopes won't hold up?  The reason I ask is I got two FFII's that seem quite nice, but they are made in the Philippines.  Are these going to give out on me on a hunt or what might I expect from them?  I have two Monarchs as well (five rifles, Monarch on 308 and 30-06, FFII on 7mm Mag and my son's 30-06, and a Bushnell 3200 on a 243).

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When a line of scopes are gaged together it can hurt the one or more good products in the line. In the FF II the 3-9 is very poor optically IMO just as the Short mag that Burris produces. The 4.5-14X44 is a good scope by my experience.  Burris has had several hits on CS and more on inconsistency in quality control. This inconsistency hurts the entire Brand and just as few weak products give the entire line a lower reputation.
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I have a 3-9 FFII on a savage, it works very well, I can tell no significant difference optically between similar Nikon or Leupold models that I've seen IMO. It gets me to my target very well.
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I have two FFII's both purchased about 4 yrs ago.  Not sure if the manufacturing was in a different place then.
I chose these scopes by mounting them on the Burris scope test gun stock which has a rubber tension mount on a gunstock that allows you to stack two scopes on top of each other and move your eye from one to the next as quickly as you want, without changing anything.
It was immediately obvious to me and my bro in law, that a direct comparison against a Leup VX-1 strongly favored the Burris.
We repeated this against a Leup VX-2, outdoors, at dusk, and the result was a tie, except the Leupold was twice the price.
I have had the Burris mounted on a Tikka T-3 300WSM.  this is a 6.5lb rifle with a high intensity cartridge...you could say the recoil is 'noticeable'.
I have approx 120rds thru that combo and the scope has been flawless.
Perfect.
Never adjusted it since sight in and that includes the marginal Tikka scope mounts.
Burris FFII is an excellent product.
Much smarter purchase than a comparable optic quality Leupold.
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I have a FFII 4.5x14 mounted on a CZ Varminter 17 Rem been on the gun about 5 years. NO problems works great on PD's. I have never had to zero again, except when I changed loads a couple of years ago.....
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I was told that the quality of Fullfield II scopes dropped after their prouction was moved to Phillipines about three years ago.  I have a made in USA FFII and it is very good.  I also had one of the first Phillipines-produced one and it was also quite good.  However, it would not be very surprising if the quality slowly tapered down over time.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I was told that the quality of Fullfield II scopes dropped after their prouction was moved to Phillipines about three years ago.  I have a made in USA FFII and it is very good.  I also had one of the first Phillipines-produced one and it was also quite good.  However, it would not be very surprising if the quality slowly tapered down over time.

ILya
Congrats on 3K.
Is mine marked re place of manufacture?
Where is marking?
Probably under the scope ringsWhacko
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if it does not say "Made in USA", it is made in Phillipines.

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I have a FFII 3x9 , made in U.S.,  and it's been  very rugged.. I  lined it up to check optically how it compares next to a Bushnell Trophy ( FFII beat it by a little bit at dusk ),3200 Elite and a Browning 3x9x40 ( close, but the 3200 wins by a nose ) ,  and it didn't measure up to a Grand Slam, 4200 Elite, Nikon Monarch, Pentax Whitetails Unlimited ( also made by Burris but I believe with Pentax's proprietary coatings ) , Swarovski AV ( no surprise ) , and a Leupold Vari x-III 2.5 - 8  .
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