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have any of yall had any expierce with these bullets.... i dont reload, i dont know anything about it.  so i'm trying to find a good factory load for a 300wsm that doesnt cost $50 a box.  i'm gonna be hunting whitetail.  i was planning on shooting either the federal fusions, federal power points, or core-lokts, 165grain

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My best advice is get some friends together and each of you bring some different brand and load type ammo, go to the range and each of you spend some time shooting different ammo in your guns, same calibre naturally, but find which ones are the most consistent in your gun and use that ammo. sometimes you get lucky and it'll be the cheaper sometimes not.
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i have a 300wsm and i always had good luck with the winchester cheapos. the federals where okay too i tried fushions in my .280 they seem to be okay in it. i would really recommend you to start reloading though the only problem with the winchesters is that to get the 165 gr bullet you want your going to pay a lot for, i used the winchester super x 180 grain for whitetail and it worked great very little meat loss and they were pretty cheap.

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I have shot some of the Federal Fusion ammo in .308. I found the accuracy to be quite good (around 1 MOA) from a heavy barreled bolt gun. This was honestly a bit of a surprise as the bullets seemed to show a bit of flash (lead flakes) around the points. I would be curious to know what your impression is if you get some. 
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you know now that you mention the lead flakes i saw that with mine as well, but like you said they were plenty accurate for killing deer, i bought them for the brass cause they were cheap so i didnt use them for anything but paper.
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my 7mm08 doesn't LOVE them, but the groups are ok.

 

hornady SST's are more accurate through that tikka.

 

overall, a pretty good bullet. paper OR meat.

 

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I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think his question is more about terminal performance, than accuracy.  I'm quessing this because it doesn't take a submoa gun to kill a deer. 

 

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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I think his question is more about terminal performance, than accuracy.  I'm quessing this because it doesn't take a submoa gun to kill a deer. 

 

  read the original post again, he wanted to know what our experiences with the federal fusion were and we are telling him what we encountered
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My oldest son shoots a 300WSM  Vanguard and uses  165 gr  Fusion factory loads. He has  taken 2 deer with it, and both dropped on the spot. One was a complete passthru broadside shot  at 55 yds and the other was a quartering away shot at about 130yds ( which we found just under the skin and mushroomed perfectly) . So far- so good. If it shoots well in your rifle- no worries.
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Originally posted by martin3175 martin3175 wrote:

My oldest son shoots a 300WSM  Vanguard and uses  165 gr  Fusion factory loads. He has  taken 2 deer with it, and both dropped on the spot. One was a complete passthru broadside shot  at 55 yds and the other was a quartering away shot at about 130yds ( which we found just under the skin and mushroomed perfectly) . So far- so good. If it shoots well in your rifle- no worries.

 

Excellent post!  Covers everything a person who wants to hunt Deer with this cartiridge would want to know!

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what's w/ the attitude Tip? it's unlike you

 

you contributed nothing to this post but sass.

 

he's gotten replies from both sides of the fence - paper AND meat.

 

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i was trying not to have any attitude........ which is why I started with I'm not trying to be a jerk......... He clearly stated he was going to use for deer hunting and the first few posts pretty much delt with accuracy........ which is fine, but thought i would try to focus new comments toward terminal performance.

 

 

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i hope you werent talking about me there, cause i tried to not only talk about terminal performance accuracy but also other options, and you also never made mention that you shoot a 300wsm? do you have one?

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thanks for all the post guys, they were alot of help.  unfortunately none of my friends shoot the 300wsm. all em shoot 270's and 7 mags.  i gonna buy a box of fusions see how they do. if they dont do too good, i will try the core lokts or the winchesters.   i looking for a bullet with a good mushroom thats pretty accurate.  i want my groups to be no more than 1" at 100yds.  3" groups are unacceptable, that would drive me nuts.  i will post let yall know how the fusions do.  thanks agains for all the replies guys
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you might seriously think about handloading my friend
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i do plan on learning how to handload, i'm sure when ever i start loading i will be askin yall alot of questions.... thanks again fellas
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Originally posted by broadfoot broadfoot wrote:

Bought 2 boxes of Federal 338 Federal 200 gr Fusion cartridges.
Two would not chamber in new Kimber 84M. Tore those down, FL resized, then okay. Best they could do was 3" at 100 yards. 185 TSXs with max loads of three different stick powders (Varget, 3031 & 4064) all shot 1-1.5" groups. Summary: not impressed.

 

Hey, broadfoot, is that your new Kimber 84M / Trijicon 3-9 Accupoint scope / S&K ring combo you're referring to?  Very nice rig!

 

I tried some of the Fusion ammo as well, but I too got mediocre accuracy from it.  It shot o.k. in my .308 -- about 1.5 MOA; not very good at all in my buddy's son's Howa .243 -- about 4 MOA.  All rifles are different, so as with anything else, individual range reports on this ammo don't mean a great deal, but since I almost always shoot handloads, I wouldn't normally buy the Fusion stuff anyway.

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well i just got back from deer camp and i can tell you that fushions do a number on deer saw deer taken with a .270 with 130 gr fushions and 3 deer taken with 180gr fushions from a 300wsm tikka t3 that really boogered the deer up.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

well i just got back from deer camp and i can tell you that fushions do a number on deer saw deer taken with a .270 with 130 gr fushions ...

 

You mean...a .277 dia bullet actually KILLED the deer instead of just bounce off the hide at impact?!!!

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

well i just got back from deer camp and i can tell you that fushions do a number on deer saw deer taken with a .270 with 130 gr fushions and 3 deer taken with 180gr fushions from a 300wsm tikka t3 that really boogered the deer up.

 

 

Thanks for the update!  I was hoping we'd get this kind of feedback!  I've been using Ballistic Tips the last few years and not sure I liked them that much better than Core-Lokt and they were more expensive!

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you mentioned core lokt, tip.

 

i have had GREAT success w/ those on deer.  great, classic bullet.

 

the fusion DOES do some meat damage compared to other bullets.

 

BUT, you don't have to worry about it running off.

 

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I went Elk hunking back in '99 and asked the local gun shop what I should shoot in my 30-06.  They recommended Winchester Supreme Fail Safe in 165 gr.  Well, I didn't shoot an Elk so I had these shells and used them for Deer.  I think I fell for the marketing hype and for the last 5 - 6 years kept buying Winchester Supremes........ at about twice the cost!  Now that both my boys are shooting.... ammo expense has really spiked......... and  along with the higher prices for ammo, I started re-thinking what I'm buying.

 

I'm just going to go with the less expensive stuff until I make the commitment to re-load.  So far, I haven't had any of the lower cost ammo shoot so bad as to not be able to use for deer hunting.

 

Season starts this Sat..... Nov. 10th and we can't wait!  Hoping for cooler weather and NO rain.  My Bro-In-law has been seeing a really big one on his property..... hopefully we'll get lucky and get a crack at him!

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i tried a box of supremes in my 25wssm and a box in my 300wsm and they both got out shot on paper by the plain jane super x's i cant honestly say that i have seen a box of factory ammo that impressed me with accuracy and also did a super job on game, im not sure why, but like on sunday my wifes cousin took my new .280 rem out and broke its cherry shot a yearling fawn and one single bullet that i hand loaded put it down .284 hole going in and about a .75 cal hole going out and that was with a near max load of 4350 pushing a 140 gr sieera boatail spitzer i was quite happy.

 

back to the fushions those three deer that were shot in our camp yesterday the one got hit low, and when it exited it split the brisket and basically blew the leg right off the on the exit side, nasty, it was about like  double shouldering a deer with a 180 gr ballistic tip out of a 300 win mag.

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