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May be a dumb question, but I have 140 pieces of once-fired Federal Brass in 308 that I was planning on reloading but am a little leary because I have been told that their primer pockets get loose after one or two reloads.  I am not that experienced in reloading and didn't want to spend a lot of time working up a load if the brass will not hold up.  Anybody have any experience with Federal brass?
 
This is for a hunting rifle, not match or long range.
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I have some fed brass that I have shot 6 times now and so far the primer pockets are fine.  Personally I think it has a lot more to do with how hot you load them than just the primer pockets being bad.  I dare bet more of the problems are because people are loading them on the hot side.  That is the quickest way to wreck brass.  
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Thanks, not planning on loading anything hot.  I want to work up a load with Varget and Hornady 150 gr. BTSP to use for deer this fall.
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Used Fedreal cases in my 243 loads where max and I never had a primer fall out or feel loose, gave those cases to a freind when I sold the rifle. He is still using them.
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Ar you saying don't waste my time?  I have some brand new Nosler brass that I was saving for my 175 SMK's when my other 308 is done and have some Winchester on order.
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Not a fan of Federal brass as most cases I've used died a premature death. Domestic brass, I like Winchester first. The best of the best is Lapua.
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i have a lot of FC 223 and 308 brass, the 223 stuff has been loaded a lot. when the primer pockets feel too loose, i chuck'em, or mark them, shoot them, then chuck them.
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I am probably going to give them a try, will give me more time learning about reloading.
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I use Federal nickel-plated brass for my .338 Win Mag reloads, and have never had a problem. 
 
 
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Federal brass integrity for reloading has been discussed at length on arfcom.
A few google searches will turn up a lot of threads like this one:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/269254__223_FC_brass_.html&page=2

Personally I reload it until it goes TU. As little as I shoot and as much as I have squirreled away it will take a while... I do keep it separate from my "premium" brass though. Let's just say not all federal brass is created equal, Federal Gold Medal Match brass for example.
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[QUOTE=anomad]Federal brass integrity for reloading has been discussed at length on arfcom.
A few google searches will turn up a lot of threads like this one:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/269254__223_FC_brass_.html&page=2 [QUOTE]
 
Thanks, I saw that earlier and similar posts on Sniper's Hide, that is why I asked here.  I resized some last night and had no problems except for the decapping pin sticking to far out of the die and not allowing me to fully resize the cases, fixed that and resized 10 cases.  Every single one of them is over max length after one firing and sizing, looks like I will be trimming these.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

I have some fed brass that I have shot 6 times now and so far the primer pockets are fine.  Personally I think it has a lot more to do with how hot you load them than just the primer pockets being bad.  I dare bet more of the problems are because people are loading them on the hot side.  That is the quickest way to wreck brass.  
 
I gotta agree with ST73.  I have some FC brass that has been loaded 4-5 X and primer pockets are fine.
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 "I have been told that their primer pockets get loose after one or two reloads."
 
Not at sane pressures they don't.
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I read all that stuff on arfcom, too but not sure if afrcom threads weren't from several years ago when there were reports of thin case heads. I measured a bunch a few months back and didn't find a problem.
Never had a problem personally w/Fed .223 brass. Federal usually has the best deals in bulk ammo, either .223 or 5.56, so I get a lot of brass that way and seems to be the fave in range brass, too. I've loaded so little of Fed in other rifle flavors that can't really comment.

Their pistol brass is good to go. I lose Fed .45acp brass, or wrinkle it while loading,  rather than split cases or have it fail, but do use it for more target/plinking and leave the hot stuff to Starline. Fed brass works just fine in other pistol calibers as well.
I had some .45Colt Federal brass that I never wore out and ended up trading it with the Blackhawk, but back in the Blackhawk business again and trying to wear out some more brass. I ran hot- hot 296 and milder Unique loads and trusted the Federal brass through a couple thousand rounds with never more than 150 cases to start with.
I only managed to shoot ~4K rounds the past couple of years, so someone not so busy that shoots a lot may have different experiences.

The only thing that really aggravates me about Fed .45acp brass- I had a quick need for some hardball and bought a box at wallyworld only to find it had small primer pockets. That was their cheap stuff and I'm not sure which ammo has what, as all my other Fed acp brass was range brass, or used bulk. The only acp brass i ever buy new is Starline.
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