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Optics Apprentice
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 Any thoughts on just how much eye relief is needed for a magnum? Specifically a pre64 300 H&H. In the past I got bit by a 7mm magnum, once bit twice shy.. (I no longer own that rifle) From my research it appears that most scopes fall in the 3 to 3.5" range with few approaching 5". I want a variable scope in the 3X10 to 4X16  range. The rifle has some specific requirements for scope size. It is a long action so any scope less than 12.5" to 13" will not fit. It has iron sights as well so about 40mm objective is max to clear without changing to very high rings. (I have leupold base and rings) Price is not the driving factor, but money as always is short for (toys) Here are some models I have found that should work.

Leupold VX III 4.5X14X40 AO   5.0 to 3.7 relief

Nikon Buckmaster 4.5X14X40  3.7 to 3.6 relief

Burris Signature 3X10X40        4.5 to 3.0 relief

Pentax Pioneer 4.5X14X42      4.2 to 3.7 relief

IOR 2.5X10X42        &nb sp;         &nb sp;    3.75 relief (tactical scope)


Several others with a 44mm objective but without a trial fit I am not sure if they will fit.

 Nikon Monarch 3.3X10X44       3.6 relief

Ziess Conquest 4.5X14X44       3.6 relief

Pentax Lightseeker 4X16X44    4.0 to 3.5 relief 

Burris Signature 4X16X44        4.0 to 3.5 relief


Any thoughts or recommendations will be greatley appreciated.


The rifle will be used for hunting (up to elk) and general range shooting




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I would chose 3-12x42 SuB or Zeiss.

THey have shorter eyerelief but it's not a problem.


Regards Technika

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/12/2006 at 22:05
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Optics GrassHopper
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Some comments from looking into the eye relief issue extensively:

1 - Many scopes (mainly Leupold variables) have much shorter eye relief at the lower powers.  Very unfortunate because you tend to use the higher powers on the bench and that seems to be where you get whacked the most.

2 - Some scopes that have a fairly long and constant eye relief: Zeiss Conquest 3X9X40, Nikon Monarch 3X10X50, Nikon Gold 2.5X10, Pentax Lightseeker 2.5X10 (not sure if this is still made), Simmons AETEC 3.8-12 (the old model, not the new Master Series.  I have this one and its a pretty decent scope).  I know some of these have a pretty big objective lens but I would rather buy another set of mounts than get whacked in the head anytime.  If the scope is too short you can get extensions rings or go with a 1 piece mount multiple slot mount (Ken Ferrell, IOR, B-Square, etc) to move the rings in.

3 - I have found that the manufacturers specs are not 100% reliable.  I don't know if it's just their errors or differences in people's eyes or both.  If possible  try out the scope before you buy it.

Good luck!

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