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Has anyone on the board experience with the eXplore Optics line of scopes, etc? I met a gentleman at the range yesterday using one of the 30mm-tube rifle scopes and took a look through it. It seemed to work ok and it was very clear image-wise on a partly-cloudy Texas afternoon, but I never heard of them before. The scope looked HUGE on a Tikka T3 Hunter 270 Win with sunshade mounted and all! I guess I am curious because the fellow marketing the line is in Flower Mound, a suburb around these parts in North Texas. I was told he was also the designer of the scopes and was a former Fuji employee?

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"eXplore Optics™, Big Bore® riflescopes are state-of-the art products and the most technological advanced precision sports optics available in the world today. Big Bore® riflescopes are produced using the highest quality components and assembled under a strict clean room environment assuring you years of reliable service and use. Big Bore® riflescopes are assembled and fine tuned One by One. Big Bore® riflescopes are Recoil-Resistant, Parallax Stable, Reticle Accuracy, Waterproof, Fog-Proof, Nitrogen Filled, One-Piece Tube Construction, Glass Etched Wired Mil-Dot Reticle, Target Turrets, 1 click = 1/8" @ 100 yards, Maximum Light Transmitting Objective Lens, and Quick-Adjust Eye Piece."


A $300 scope that claims to be the most technologically advanced in the world- but lists no advanced technology:  I'll pass till many, many knowledgeable shooters have great experiences with these.


I have not seen one or heard of them before, but their web site makes me highly skeptical.
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I have never seen these scopes, so take this with a grain of salt, but visually these look just like the rest of the chicom crap out there from brands like Eagle Eye Optics and others.

As RC has pointed out the gibberish text on the website also suggests that you should let someone else be the guines pig: "Glass Wired" reticle. Is it glass or is it wire?

"Parallax stable"  what the heck is that supposed to mean? they changed the laws of physics?

"Lase Embedded Broadband Coatings" what exactly are they embedding with a laser there (digging their own grave perhaps)?  That is pure hogwash.

Now, for all I know these are very nice products, but so far I have my doubts and would not give this brand the time of day unless there is a LOT more positive exposure.

ILya


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explore optics ..........this is red flag if ever I saw one, they are giving you a heads up?....you should EXPLORE other optics!              Loco
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have never seen these scopes, so take this with a grain of salt, but visually these look just like the rest of the chicom crap out there from brands like Eagle Eye Optics and others.

As RC has pointed out the gibberish text on the website also suggests that you should let someone else be the guines pig: "Glass Wired" reticle. Is it glass or is it wire?

"Parallax stable"  what the heck is that supposed to mean? they changed the laws of physics?

"Lase Embedded Broadband Coatings" what exactly are they embedding with a laser there (digging their own grave perhaps)?  That is pure hogwash.

Now, for all I know these are very nice products, but so far I have my doubts and would not give this brand the time of day unless there is a LOT more positive exposure.

ILya


Now ILya, it is clear that "glass wired" means they cut a channel in the glass with a high powered laser and before the glass dries, stick a wire in it.  Parallax stable means they have discovered a warp shifting technology which allows you to move anywhere you want to and the reticle follows you, and EVERYONE knows that a laser can now be used, by phase shifting, to apply optical coating... Heck, you can even apply paint at certain frequencies.  
Oh, yee of little faith...


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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have never seen these scopes, so take this with a grain of salt, but visually these look just like the rest of the chicom crap out there from brands like Eagle Eye Optics and others.

As RC has pointed out the gibberish text on the website also suggests that you should let someone else be the guines pig: "Glass Wired" reticle. Is it glass or is it wire?

"Parallax stable"  what the heck is that supposed to mean? they changed the laws of physics?

"Lase Embedded Broadband Coatings" what exactly are they embedding with a laser there (digging their own grave perhaps)?  That is pure hogwash.

Now, for all I know these are very nice products, but so far I have my doubts and would not give this brand the time of day unless there is a LOT more positive exposure.

ILya


Now ILya, it is clear that "glass wired" means they cut a channel in the glass with a high powered laser and before the glass dries, stick a wire in it.  Parallax stable means they have discovered a warp shifting technology which allows you to move anywhere you want to and the reticle follows you, and EVERYONE knows that a laser can now be used, by phase shifting, to apply optical coating... Heck, you can even apply paint at certain frequencies.  
Oh, yee of little faith...




Thanks, KB.

Now, I saw the light.  I guess it is back to school for me, so that I can truly understand...

ILya
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Yea, but it will have to be a VERY SPECIAL school...
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Thanks guys. That pretty much was my take, too. I think I'll stick with my Kahles and Swaros... I wanted to throw it out there to see what others knew. Hope y'all had a great weekend!
 
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In point of fact, we know NOTHING of the actual optic; however, their website gives us several moments of pause.
 
It might be the greatest deal in modern optics, it might be the best scope ever made, but I'll save my money till the "might" is replaced with "is" - and I am OK not being the first to figure it out.
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Hello folks my name is Darrell Hall.  I run Taxidermy texas in Pearland, TX.  I also have an online Pro-Shop we are building and I sell eXplore Optics.  I'm the biggest skeptic of them all but these optics made a beleiver out of me and many customers and friends.  If you would like to try one give me a shout I can give you a promo code to use at checkout and offer a 3 day money back gaurentee if you do not like them.  I think they are comparible to the big 3.  Yes I said it.  Give em a try you will be plesently suprised and your pocket book will thank you.  I'm new on here and no one knows me from Adam.  I have plenty of references on taxidermy.net forums.  Good day to everyone and I'm glad I found this forum.  I enjoy conversation with good people and sharing knowledge.
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Hi Darrell. Welcome to Optics Talk.
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Thanks Cyborg and forgive me if I over stepped my bounds.  It is not my intention to make money here.  I am a member of many and I respect all of them and the moderators whom patrol them. 
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Not to worry... I just wanted to point that out. It is a tough situation to be in. Hopefully, you will have no problems making the adjustment. If there is anything (As a member) that you need help with let myself or another moderator know.
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Here is a picture of a target someone shot with an Explore Optics scope:
 http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showgallery&Number=1456577

Nice groups


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I live about 10 minutes from this taxadermy guy, I think I will go look at these scopes this week if he is open.

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Hello everyone. Stumbled onto this site. We recently purchased a 3x9 Explore for my sons new.270 Savage. Purchased at the Nov. 09 Tulsa Gun Show upon advice from two friends in the area that gave them high marks. I'm certainly no expert, all I can ad to the discussion is the 11 year old shot his first deer on his first hunt and has no complaints on its performance.Excellent For the money I'm quite satified with the quality of the scope and the customer service has been excellent.
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Hey Clark, I recognize that target...
 
I did shoot that target with the Explore scope. I was very torn between getting another 16x Super Sniper or the Explore for the variable power. For the money, I really like the scope. I "had" a buddy that became a dealer for them based on my experience with them, and he was using that experience to help him sell them. I was given a discounted price quote on a new one, and then he decided to back out on the deal. So this left me rather bitter to say the least, considering how many scope sales he got from me. For this reason, I will be dealing with Chris & SWFA again soon, and will be going with either another SS or possibly a Hawke Tactical.
 
I had been waiting for many years for a variable power SS, but just couldn't throw down the cash when it finally came out. I have owned multiple optics from Bushnell to Nightforce, and I will remain open to checking out new stuff as it come along. But Chris and SWFA have had, and will remain with top marks for their customer service and backing up what they sell. Not to mention the fact that he stands by his word!!
 
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I just returned from a hunt in central Texas where I was lucky enough to guide a father and his two daughters on the girls first deer hunt.  The father had a 4 x 16 Explore scope mounted on his new ICON, 30 TC.  After he had harvested a nice management buck we notice a small group of Axis crossing a hill in the distance.  Now, I have been trying to harvest an Axis for the past several weeks but have not been able to either because I was not armed at the time or I was with a client.  The father noticed my disappointment at another chance at Axis being lost and offered me the use of his rifle.  I made the windage and elevation corrections using the "mill dot" system on the scope and cranked it to 16X , then turned the parallax to 500.  The buck continued to walk and I picked a location to ambush him by letting him walk "into" the bullet.  At the shot, the buck crumpled.  The shot was 605 yards.  I was impressed with the quality of the optics and plan to purchase one for my 7mm Remington Mag. in the near future.
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Welcome aboard, doeroller.  Good name...
Thank you for the information.  I would like to be able to evaluate one, but that requires a bit of time, can't be done on a time constraint.  Perhaps one will show up in this area sometime soon...
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Kickboxer.... one shot does not an evaluation make......I mean what would I have thought about the scope if I had missed.... I know I wasn't being very objective, however it was clear and bright but will it hold zero or repeat zero?  I have know idea.  If you do get a chance to study one, I really like to read about it.  However, for the money I'm still going to try one.
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You are right, one shot does not an eval make.  It was a good data point.  Seems I saw one somewhere a while back and "played" with it, but don't really remember the details.  
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Well guys, let's see how it goes.  I do 300 to 800 yrd prairie dog shooting and have used a Super Sniper 20x, which I purchased at SWFA.  I decided it was too difficult to find the target in the scope with the 20x.  The field of view is fairly small.  When shooting in TX, in the late afternoon the mirage can get pretty bad with a 20x. 
 
I have seen Explore Optics for the past year at the gun shows.  I decided to give one a try.  The scopes are very bright and clear.  They have models with lighted reticles, but that drops the warranty to 3 yrs only.  I have no need for the lighted reticle and avoided it.  I went with an 8x-32x and have only done paper shooting.  I have ran the turrets up 20 MOA and fired tight groups and then back to zero.  So far so good.  It will get a good workout in April 2011 on my next prairie dog trip.  Be rest assured I'll carry my secondary with my faithful Super Sniper with me.
 
SWFA has fantastic service and is a great company.  The risk I take is buying a scope that doesn't have a proven track record or a solid company like SWFA behind it.
 
I'll let you know how it goes.  At this point is it a gamble.
 
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 I may be out of line here since I've never heard of these scopes before, But with that said...If Ilya is leary of them and SWFA doesnt carry them, thats about all I need to know to say I'll pass on them.

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