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I'm very curious why new scopes are still coming out with 3x erector set up instead of at least 4 or 5...any ideas?

Trying to figure out if they are considered more durable in theory or if there is any other good reason. 

Kinda sucks to see a scope I don't know much about and start reading up on it....then I see it is a 3x erector and it seems like an unnecessary ding on it.

One example is seeing quite a few people's first impressions when they are informed about the SS variable.  3-9 doesn't seem very attractive, how many more would jump on it if it was 3-12 or 4-20?  Was the 3x erector used to keep the weight down for AR's?




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They are cheaper to build.  And realistically who needs more than 9x for 99% of hunting needs.  I think most high power scopes are to appease the masses that think they need 32x to shoot a deer that is 150 yards away.  
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They are cheaper to build.

They are easier to optimize for proper optical performance across the magnification spectrum.

They are a bit less complex, so reliability is easier to achieve.

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Probably so, but a FFP mil-dot scope with large target knobs and metric adjustments is designed for more.  I don't see why some one would even want to try to range with a basic mil-dot reticle at less than 6x...it's so tiny.  I guess the lower magnifications could just be used for close in hunting and the 6-9x for actual distance shooting. 

It does seem versatile but it would seem much more attractive if it was up to 12x or more.
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Thanks for the input guys

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Realistically I don't think a person will need to be doing to much reticle ranging out to 300 yards, which is getting pretty far with an AR.  (Which the variable SS will really shine on.)  Unless you are needing to hit something very small.  At the same time actually using a reticle to range in the field is quite difficult as many times you will have no idea of the actual size of your target.  If you are shooting something much farther away chances are you are going to have the time to set up and get your scope squared away the way it needs to be.  So having the option of the low 3x is nice and 9x is more than is needed for 600+ yards.  Many people use 10x for 1000 yard shooting.  You won't have as much parallax error, mirage to deal with, you will be steadier, etc etc. 

But using the reticle for holdover is another story.  If you know the distance and know where to hold over that is where a FFP can come in very handy.  You don't have to make sure you are on X power to be able to use your holdover.  If you need to hold 1.5 mils high with the FFP whatever power you are on you are good to go.  With the SPF you suddenly have to check what mag you are on and by then the opportunity may be gone. 

I had an IOR 2.5-10x and I agree at the low powers you cannot do much with it as far as ranging, but you can certainly shoot with it that low.  I found 4x was where it started getting good and I could have used it to range something if I would have wanted.
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