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I thought they were both quality optics. What say you? Thanks...
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http://swfa.com/Aimpoint-Micro-Red-Dot-Sights-C12.aspx

Not even close. The Micro changed the entire red dot game. 


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Mark is right about that.
 
This thing that I didn't like about EOtech is the fuzziness of the reticle.  Aside from that they are great sights, I have a XPS2 on my M4.
 
But, I brought it that way, I will be putting a PRO on it shortly.  The main reason, I am doing it, is because of battery life and the dot appears sharper to my eye.
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Used both, extensively, owned both, I prefer the Aimpoint.

The eotech reticle is pixilated - which some have no problem with and others simply do not like.  I side with the "do not like" group.  And battery life of the eotech isn't nearly as good.

That said, field of view is MUCH better on the eotech, and you can have multiple aiming points on the reticle.  with aimpoint, you get one dot.

EoTech is a purpose-built optic, if that is your purpose, it works quite well.  If you need a general use red dot, get an Aimpoint.  The T1 is amazing, as said above.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Used both, extensively, owned both, I prefer the Aimpoint.

The eotech reticle is pixilated - which some have no problem with and others simply do not like.  I side with the "do not like" group.  And battery life of the eotech isn't nearly as good.

That said, field of view is MUCH better on the eotech, and you can have multiple aiming points on the reticle.  with aimpoint, you get one dot.

EoTech is a purpose-built optic, if that is your purpose, it works quite well.  If you need a general use red dot, get an Aimpoint.  The T1 is amazing, as said above.

Completely agree.  Have used both.  Aimpoint any day for me.  Love my Micro T-1.
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OK OK OK, you win, I am baited.


I prefer the EO-TECH, here is why faster target acquisition without going down the battery lane, Dominator 2 mount on a RRA will get you to your target the quickest in my opinion. Others will co-witness as well.

Here is why.

Charlie Oscar Whiskey India Tango November Echo Sierra Sierra

YOU HAVE YOUR IRONS WITHOUT ANY ISSUES.

Yes, batteries run out.

I do like the mention of the 3 dot sight that is a superb design and has my attention.

Yes, I own a Comp4, mounted on M4, Yes, I own a T1-micro, mounted on AK(which I choose 3x anyday, and 10x on Sunday). Yes, I own some EO-Tech's, they are on FNAR, a couple of 870's and M4's.

Co-witness with BOTH EYES not to much training BOTH EYES.

INCOMMMIINNNGGG!!!!

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This is one of those Ford vs. Chevy debates.  Both have their devotees, both for good reasons.

I like the reticle and less obstructed view of the EoTech better.  To me, the EoTech is a little faster to acquire, and I think the circle dot is faster to pick up than a dot alone.  Yes, the reticle is pixellated.  Though I would prefer it wasn't, it isn't a detriment to aiming precision; it's really just an aesthetic thing.   Even pixellated, the EoTech center dot is still finer than the Aimpoint dot.  I wish the last reticle intensity setting is retained in memory for the next time you turn it on, but it doesn't have that feature, unless it was added recently.

I like the Aimpoint's size, weight, and battery life better.  It's a much less obtrusive optic.  Nothing has longer battery life than an Aimpoint.  An aircraft carrier nuclear reactor doesn't have the Aimpoint's non-stop run time.  I don't have any data to support this, but I suspect the Aimpoint may be a bit more rugged than an EoTech, because its form factor is much more compact, lacking the protruding screen above the main body. 

Overall, I'm more of an EoTech fan, but I like both.

Another dot sight worth considering IMO is the Trijicon RMR mini reflex sight.  If you like the size of the Aimpoint Micro, it's even a bit smaller and lighter than the Micro.  I have the battery powered 3.25 MOA LED version RMR, and I've become a huge fan!  I preferred it to the fiber optic version because it has a smaller, more refined dot.  It's tiny, extremely light, and very rugged.  It also has very good battery life.  Mine has been totally foolproof.  I love this little sight!
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Ok...polls are now closed and Aimpoint wins by a landslide!!  Big Grin
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ouch...
The feeling you get when you are not just shooting at steel...and you chose an Aimpoint...
 
J/k
 
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I noticed all the Navy Seals have EoTechs on their H&K 416s.  Their gear is frequently submerged in both fresh and salt water.  Is that just because they had no other options?Wink

If an EoTech is good enough for JSOC, it's good enough for me!Salute

Plus, a good friend of mine works for L3 Communications, the mfg of the EoTech, and I like to support my local peeps when I can!
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Ted, on your RMR, is it dual illumination or LED - or adjustable LED?

Does it do better with washout than their older Reflex 2 sites (which I like allot.)
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I noticed all the Navy Seals have EoTechs on their H&K 416s.  Their gear is frequently submerged in both fresh and salt water.  Is that just because they had no other options?Wink



Hahaha....darn budget cuts! Wink
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Jeff,
It's the regular (original), non-adjustable LED version.  It does washout a bit in situations where you're in the shade and looking toward a really sunny high contrast area or if you have strong back light shining on the screen, but it's not too bad.  In most situations, the dot is very visible.  The illumination level does auto-adjust some for ambient light, which I like.  I have it as a primary sight on a Tactical Solutions .22LR Ruger MKIII replacement upper.  It works great in that role because it's so small and light, perfectly complementing the lightweight TS target upper on a 22/45 frame.  Because of its intended use, I just didn't see the need to spend the extra $ for the adjustable version when the normal ill level is perfectly adequate for most light conditions.  I like the dual illumination concept, but I wanted the smallest dot size, which was only available in the batt powered LED version.  I've had it for 1.5 year now.  Since there is no on/off switch, it's been running continuously for that length of time so far with no indication of LED dimming, so I'm pleased with batt life.

Besides being very small and light, W/E adjustments have been spot on, and it's held zero.  I haven't babied it, so it seems to be very rugged.  I carry this pistol with me outdoors virtually everywhere I go because it's so fun to plink with and it's a great training aid, so I was willing to spend the extra $ on a rugged little sight for the tremendous fun factor the pistol provides.  With the RMR on top, it's so fun to shoot and so accurate, I have to pry it out of my hunting buddies' hands when I bring it to deer camp with me.  I can't say enough positive things about the RMR!  It works equally well as a CQ primary sight when "light and compact" is the goal or a secondary backup to a scope, ACOG, etc.  The only real disadvantage to it is with the really small screen, the dot isn't as quick to acquire as with larger reflex sights.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

I noticed all the Navy Seals have EoTechs on their H&K 416s.  

Not all.
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Didn't you see the movie "Act of Valor?"  Work with me, Jeff.Wink
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If that is as closest as you have been to a trident-wearing grunt, as you were, carry on.
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(Hint:  I wasn't being serious)
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Ok, so what's the deal with the condescension?

Did I answer your questions about the RMR?
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Romeo Charlie 6.....Be advised.....Romeo Delta 7 is friendly..I say again...FRIENDLY....over. 
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No condescension, that picture just cracks me up.

You did answer my question, thank you.


I am in need something new to test for a 10" AR15, and wanted to know if this was worth a look.  I don't put optics on handguns, but thought about something like this for an SBR.

Thanks for the insight, sorry if the picture came across wrong.
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What about small or low power ACOGs w/ Docter Mounts. Big Grin
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I need WIDE FOV, this is a dedicated CQC rifle.  SO ACOG is not needed, Doctor is an option, as is EoTech or another T1. 
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No prob, brother.

I'd have a hard time believing you wouldn't like the RMR, but then again, you likely have different priorities than me.  I'm more of a hunter and target shooter. 

Besides the necessarily small screen affecting dot acquisition speed, the only other criticism I can find it is it seems rather expensive for what it is, and when I ordered mine, it was back-ordered for nearly 6 months.  But, it's a quality piece of gear and I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.

I don't normally put optics on handguns either, but the damn thing is so small, it's a natural for that purpose.  Plus, the 3 MOA dot is much more precise than the coarse OEM irons.  I made a short rail in my shop the same length as the RMR to mount it to, which fits in the slot formerly occupied by the rear iron sight.  It made for a very streamlined installation that looks cool and isn't too obtrusive. 


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