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After this year Bushnell will no longer offer the Elite 3200 or 4200 series of scopes....at least under those model designations.
 
The Elite 6500 line will remain with no additions. 
 
Trophy XLT has six new additions.
1-4x24 Illuminated 4a, 30mm
1.5-6x42 Illuminated 4a, 30mm
1.5-6x44 4a, 30mm
2-7x36 DOA 200 FMC
3-9x40 DOA 200 FMC
3-12x56 Illuminated 4a, 30mm
 
The Banner line will see three new models.
3-9x40 Illuminated CF500
3-9x40 MZ200
4-16x40 Illuminated CF500
 
We are really looking forward to the addition of several new Laser Rangefinders including a 12x50 Fusion binocular/1600 yard laser rangefinder.
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Well that is a bummer.  The Trophy XLTs that I have looked through did not have a very good image quality.  That leaves a pretty big gap between them and the 6500.  
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thats too bad, the 4200 elite is one of my favorite scopes.
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Those were the only good things going for them in riflescopes.
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Thanks for that tid bit of info CF!
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Any ideas as to why they are doing this?
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They probably figure they can make more money by flooding the market with new unproven junk. I'm going to be real pissed if I ever break a 4200 and I'm told it can't be fixed or replaced with the same model scope.
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My guess is a new line will fill the gap between the Trophy XLT and 6500.
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Thanks for the info Chris... I'm bummed,...but appreciate the heads up!!
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My guess:

Bushnell 3500. Fully multicoated.
Bushnell 4500. Index-matched coatings and pop-up turrets.



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Did Bushnell change leadership in the last 3 years? It seems that they are really making bad management decisions since about that time. CS went down, Buying Millett, then really dropping the ball with them, Now taking out the best affordable scope lines they have. Loco
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So as of Jan.1 its existing stock only??  Will there be discontinued prices as with vortex?
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The Trophy 1-4 illuminated and 1.5-6 illuminated were scopes they discontinued last year and I like the 1-4 illuminated real well for a cheap illuminated scope so that will be a welcome addition for something you hunt coons with at night or for a slug gun where accuracy is a figment of the imagination.   And on the bright side we may see some smoking hot deals on the last of the 4200's Excellent the 4-16x40 is one of my favorites.
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I have no doubt that something is in the works to replace them.  To tell the truth these products were getting alittle long in the tooth and it is time to update and/or replace them.
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as long as the replacement is as tough and as good as the 4200 then im ok with that.
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Although I'm a bit bummed (i've got 2 4200 and 1 3200).  The name change is all about Marketing, nothing more (they are probably biting into the 6x series sales).  They will tweek the products and the literature to make the new line sound like it's a brand new state of the art blah blah blah... Just like EVERY OTHER mfg.  Rebranding a product is the holy resurrection marketing 101 tactic.

Unless of course they are real idiots (and since Bushnell is now owned by a VC group) and they drop the quality but rebrand it with a new shiny name................  We have all seen that in plenty of other products.  BUT alas, the sheep will line up in droves and gaze upon the new glitz and become buy more zombies................................  bahaaaa
 
 
 
 
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Urimaginaryfrnd  Those Trophy models were good scopes if you like dots and illumination. "I do" I'm curious how the new Trophy line will stack up against the Eclipse line from Hawke. If you haven't played with one of the Hawke series scopes, try to do so. I love my 1.5 - 6 X 44


Bummer about the 3200 and 4200 series, hope they get clearanced out for cheap, I'll buy. Big Smile

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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

Bummer about the 3200 and 4200 series, hope they get clearanced out for cheap, I'll buy. Big Smile
 
As the owner of three 4200s (2.5-10x40, 4-16x40 and 6-24x50) I wish as well!!!
 
I might go out and get a few more soon...
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

as long as the replacement is as tough and as good as the 4200 then im ok with that.
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They just updated the 4200 4-16x40 from front focus to side focus this year, they also did several other updates on the line so it's not like they have not done some up dates they just have not jumped off into the BDC reticles in a big way with that line but the knobs are finger adjustable to dial in correction. I cant wait for them to go on sale I'd love to have another one.
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Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

After this year Bushnell will no longer offer the Elite 3200 or 4200 series of scopes....at least under those model designations.
 
 
They are going to be all lumped into one model just named Elite.
 
Elite
E4165      4-16x50 Matte, Multi-X Argon, AO, Semi-Target Turrets     
E8320      8-32x40 Matte, Multi-X, Argon, Adj Objective               
E2105      2.5-10x50 Matte, Multi-X, Argon                              
E1224      1.25-4x24 Matte 4A w/Illum, FMC, Argon, 30MM                   
E4164B     4-16x40 Matte, DOA 600 Argon, AO, Semi-Target Turrets     
E6240      6-24x40 Matte, Multi-X, Argon AO, Sunshade, Semi-target Turrets  
E6241      6-24x40 Matte, Mill Dot Argon, AO, Semi-target Turrets     
E3950B     3-9x50 Matte, DOA 600 Argon                                   
E4164      4-16x40 Matte, Multi-X Argon, AO, Semi-Target Turrets     
E2104       
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so will the glass all be the same now ?  4200 glass or 3200 glass?
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and still a Light Optical Works scope I hope ?
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Interesting development.

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At first after seeing Chris' last post, I was thinking about the extensive VX3 line up. Then there is some 4x zoom scopes in the Elite mix. This combines some of the VX7 and VX3 power ranges. I would like to see what happens to the Bushnell pricing.
Their scopes have impressed me a lot in the mid-range price bracket. This is interesting to me also.

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