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Quick question - Is there a reason why this scope is not listed on Bushnell's website?  Is this a discontinued model?  I will be ordering one soon!
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yes i believe that is correct, for now, there has been some rumor that they are doing an update on them currently and havent released the new 4200 (if the rumor is true) yet.
 
i would order one asap they are a great value i love mine
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It is not on their site or in their catalog because it would kill the sales of both the 3200 3-9x40 and 4200 2.5-10x40.  It is the same scope that Bushnell made under the Browning name a few years ago but with Rainguard.  4200 glass and coatings with a 3200 3x erector.  There are several rumors as to why they did it, the two that make the most sense are:

1.  Made to boost the bottom line just prior to selling the company to an investment company.
2.  Made because competitors were running ads comparing 3-9 scopes and since there was no 4200 3-9 they compared Bushnell's 3200 which would lose every time in a side by side.
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Thanks for the update Chris!
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By the way, has anyone compared the actual magnification of 4200 3-9x40 to other scopes. I own one 3-9 and when I compared the maximum magnification with my nightforce the 9x mag wasn't even near of the nf's 9x. it's not that big issue, but more of a disappointment. I usually expect pretty much from the 4200 series.
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Possibly it is your NF that is not true at 9x.  That would be more likely since 9x is the end of the Elite's power range.
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Well, I very strongly doubt that NF's magnification ratios are incorrect as we're talking about $250 vs $1700 optics. Also, I've compared the magnification to other scopes also and found similar thing, the 9x magnification just seems too small.

Time for some investigative journalism it seems, I'll try to compare ratios of my different optics as soon I'll get my last investment, so on the line would be 4200 3-9, 6500 2.5-16, nightforce 5.5-22 and 3200 10x40 just for the kicks. :)
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The Elite and NF come from the same factory.  Price of the scope should not have anything to do with its actual magnification.  My point was that the markings on the power selector are not always precise and since NF does not have a scope that ends in 9x you would have to set the power selector "mid-stream" on what the selector shows to be 9x which is rarely accurate regardless of brand or price.
 
If you have a 4.5-14x scope with a 10 power mil-dot you have to calibrate the power selector to get accurate mil readings.  You do this by measuring 100 yards precisely and hang up a milradian calibrated target and turn your magnification until the reticle is subtending exactly one milradian at 100 yards.  You then mark you scope and power selector with two dots.  Rarely is this location exactly at the stated 10x.  This is also the primary reason that second focal plane milradian reticle scopes have the reticle calibrated at the highest magnification because you don't have to worry about the power selector reference number aligning with the true magnification.  Make sense?????
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ahh.... yes it does!   Thanks for that explanation, I couldn't figure out why the hell they made you use it at the hightest mag........... now I do!
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It's really funny when you run into a 6-24 from a company that doesn't know what they're doing and it has a 24x mil-dot in the second focal plane.  One year tasco put a 10x mil-dot in a 3-9x40 World Class and just about no one realized it because the people buying it did not know the mil-dot was intended for ranging.
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 I never look at the mag settings .... I just adjust it on the fly as needed or wanted ... of course 99% of my shooting IS NOT on a range ... but in the field . Man by the time I'd check every setting my game would be gone !
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