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How many guys like me still using and trusting a balance beam loading scale? Electronic ones are nice for weighing brass and bullets but drifting and calibrating kinda leave me cold for weighing exact powder charges for me. Course I only load 20 or so at a time and my reloading doesn't entail hours at the bench so the balance and weighing each charge isn't really too burdensome I suppose.

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I use electronic scales.

I have a Lyman scale I got with the press and I have and a http://www.acculab.com/products/?item=VIC-303 scale. I use both on every single load. I will pull some loaded shells from a batch of 100+(all I load) and open them back up just to see if they all are the correct weights. 100% of the time it is right on the money. It takes me a little longer to load because I weight each charge but it is dead on when I’m finished.

 

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i started using a balance beam 20yrs ago and until last year i started using a digital, both are good.
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I use the RCBS digital combined with auto dispense unit and would never do it any other way.  Although I have never used the balance, the Lyman balance that came with the press does not exactly inspire a great deal of confidence, based on its cheap appearance.  I have checked and re-checked the RCBS for repeatability and it is always on the money.  I calibrate before every reloading session and frequently will recalibrate in the middle of a session.  I use it on Auto mode.  Just load the powder, set to Auto, punch the amount in grains, hit dispense and every time I set the tray back onto the scale, it dumps the same amount back into the tray.  While it is re-dispensing, I am seating a bullet.  Knowing my obsessive compulsive behavior, that balance would drive me crazy.

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well it can take a bit to get the scale to balance out unless you are way light or way heavy of course, if your within .5 grains +or- it can take a while, i hated that.
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Lyman still sell refferance weights? Either style is only as good as the set up and calibration.
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Dolphin nailed it for me,

That 5-0-5 scale dosn't inspire confidence in accuracy. I'm new to reloading but not to fine calibration work. The first time I threw a charge of Varget into a case for my .308 I was looking for a digital scale. LOL It looked like I was never going to get the bullet in the case. Then friends told me that that was about normal and that I should try 4064. Still I'm looking for a good Ohaus jewelers scale. A fair one can get you to about 1/30th of a grain accuracy.

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I'm a big fan of the RCBS Chargemaster as well.  I've been totally satisfied.  I've checked it every way I can think of, and it's never failed.
 
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Guess I'm the last of a dieing breed......:>)

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my old man still uses the original lyman scale that my grand dad started out with over 50 yrs ago you are not alone
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I've switched back and forth from balance beam scales to electronics over the last several years.  I seem to always come back to the electronic.  Some of the early electronics were a little iffy, but my latest, the RCBS Chargemaster has been very good.
 
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I'm with Dolphin.  The RCBS automatic dispenser/electronic scale combination is great.  It eliminates all the fiddling around to get an exact charge.  If I didn't have this, I could happily work with an RCBS mechanical scale.  These have been very reliable and accurate.   
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I have and use both.  The balance scale just verifies the electronic scale, so that when they both agree (and they always do), I have total confidence in my charge weight.  For most of my loading, I use the digital since it's much faster, but during a long session, I'll occasionally weigh a "reality check" charge on the ol' balance scale just to verify they still both agree with each other.  Kinda like wearing both a belt and suspenders at the same time!
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Originally posted by Focus Focus wrote:

Guess I'm the last of a dieing breed......:>)

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Me too....Big%20Grin
RCBS 5-0-5 for me....I don't need no "steenking" digital scale. Bandito
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RCBS 510 and Uniflow here. Upgrading is definitely in order.
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i use the uniflow myself and i hate it compared to the lyman no 55 the uniflow sucks i think as far as manual powder dispensers go, the charge master is nice i wonder if the unit pact makes is just as nice but $100 cheaper.
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Here is an intersting article, for those of us behind the times

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thanks for that T i guess i will go ahead and spend the money and do it right with the rcbs
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I used the ballance beam since the early 70s but Christmas a year ago my son gave me a RCBS digital powder dispenser with digital scale. There is an enormous difference this is so much faster and accuracy is exceptionally good.  I wouldnt want to go back but I'm not about to toss out the old proven equipment either.
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Ah hell!! The older I get the more precious "time" is.
 
I guess I'll be getting the RCBS Chargemaster, is it??    
Looks to be about $300...I might as well get that AND a Kahles off the Sample List........Peeker  Stiring%20The%20Pot
 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

...I might as well get that AND a Kahles off the Sample List........Peeker  Stiring%20The%20Pot
 
 
Once you do, let me know, and I'll give you the secret password and handshake to be admitted into the double top secret Kahles Cult!Wink
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there isnt a secret password or handshake, all you gotta do is tell ted he is oozing with sex appeal and your in, i personally am a little scared of the kahles frat group
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Think I'll stick with the old balance scale a bit longer and spend ALL the extra money on scopes. Monarch just to try one........and a swaro just to have one lightweight top end model.

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 Also keep in mind that many benchresters feel that a consistent charge VOLUME is at least as important to accuracy as is charge WEIGHT, thus they purchase high-end volumetric meters such as Harrells, Redding BR-30s, etc. , and don't worry too much about a tenth of a grain weight deviation here or there.
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here's a good check without a certified weight. Use a dime, it weighs 35 grains on average so grab a couple and weigh them if most fall around 35 grains I'd say thats good to go.   Thunbs%20Up

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