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The election results are in.

Anyone care to weigh in with their take on them? 

I wonder what people are thinking about the effects of this election short term and long term.

If anyone from California weighs in, I'd like to know what you think about our new attorney general.

ILya
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I think America expressed it's negative opinion of the job GW is doing.

It would appear that we don't think too much of the performance.
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Gobles was right if you repeat the lie long enough, the people will believe it.  It will be about 10 months before we see some form of gun control push.  Some screaming reds were elected to take the place of good pratical republicans. Yarmuth taking over from Ann Northrop for example. 

 

I have been suggesting the following books for some time.  Rich Dad's Prophesy by Kiyosaki, Revolutionary Wealth by Alvin and Heidi Toffler, The Roaring 2000's series by Dent.  These books talk about where the country is going economicaly and socially.

 

"Selling the Invisable" is a book talking about customer service that explaines why the Republicans lost.

 

Please also see my rant on this issue in the NRA thread

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I think Nancy Pelosi is a pure socialist.  What may save us is that several of the Dems who were elected are pro-gun, and probably more conservative than the Republicans they replaced.
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As a general disclaimer, I am not happy with either party right now.  I think 99% of our politicans from both parties are vile, power hungry and corrupt.

If voting records are indications, Democrats are more likely to vote along party lines than Republicans. That implies that the Democrats who were elected based on their overall pretty conservative beliefs will vote along with the other Democrats along the party lines when the time comes. 

There is a little more dissension among republicans.  Unfortunately, those republicans that vote agains the party line are left wing republicans and they vote along with democrats.  That is more or less the reason why we had a republican controlled legislature IN NAME ONLY.

As for socialism, both parties right now are BIG GOVERNMENT parties.  That, almost by definition, implies socialist parties.  Both parties increase the size of the government and government spending.  Admittedly, while both are on the way to taking us to socialism, democrats are certainly marching along at a faster pace.

Then there is the foregin policy.  I am far more hawkish on this than either republicans or democrats (democrats are in the ballpark, as far as hawkishness is concerned with frog legs and escargot, their primary foreign policy starts and ends with a "bend over and push" directive to all military personnel). 

That, in many ways, comes from growing up in the Soviet Union.  I've been all around central Asia.  I have some familiarity with Middle East as well.  When we went into Iraq, we should have flattened half the country and made everyone else in the region shake with fear.  If you do not do that, you might as well not go there at all.  Building democracy in a society not mature enough to function as a democracy is a joke.  Tribal cultures understand strenght and fear.  Not much else unortunately.

But I digress.  In a situation where you have two socialist parties, you do not want a hyperactive government.  As a matter of fact you want you government that does as little as possible legislatively, because thery are very unlikely to do anything that does not increase the size and power of the government.  In that regard, a divided governement is a good thing.  Historically when the two chambers are in different hands, the government does the least harm.  The fact that Democrats look to be in control of both House and Senate is an absoolutely aweful thing to happen.  I hope GW has prepared his veto pen.  The really bad thing may happen two years from now:  if we elect a Democrat president we will end up with Democrat controlled legislative and executive branches.  If that happens, prepare some long term preservative grease/oils.  You'll either turn your guns in or bury them somewhere in the backyard.  All that will still remian legal will be single shot shotguns and muzzle loaders.

In foregin policy, if we cut and run in Iraq, within the next 50 years, expect the folowing to occur (obviously, just my opinion): 

Whether Islam swallows Europe will depend on  whether Israel manages to make most of middle east a glass desert with her dying breath  (that may still not be enough to keep Europe from accepting sharia laws). 

Russia is well on its way to another Stalin-style dictatorship.  I would expect Russia to be going through 30-40 year cycles of strife and turmoil.  I also expect China to take Siberia from Russia.  China needs direction to expand and they've been looking north for a while now.  During the last ten years, somewhere between seven and ten million Chinese quietly crossed the Amur river and settled.  Russian authorities are not doing anything about it.  Imagine if all the illegal immigrants from Latin countries we talk about so much here were to cross the border with their families settle down and start farming and building houses, etc.  They are still citizens of China though and all they are really is an avangard party.

Once the conflict between Islam and the West extinguishes itself, China will quietly mo pup the survivors.  United States, due to their location are hard to do much with, but expect US to either become either a nation of China or go into isolation.

Anyhow, I can go on for a while (there is still India, Africa and Australia left), but you get my drift.  I think there is a lot, both globally and locally, riding on what US government does over the next two election cycles.

Just my opinion.  I could certainly be wrong.

ILya
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mwyate,

 

I am not so naive.  I live the most liberial town in my state.  These people prize being a democrat over anything else.  You ask them are you gay, they say no... Are you for gun control, they say no... Are you for abortion, they say no...  Are you for high taxes, they say no...  Are you against having a Chirstmas scene with baby Jesus, they say no...  So when you ask them why are you a Democrat?  They tell you it is a part of thier families heritiage.  Then you get lectured about them being and "indpendant thinker"    It is not unlike the wife to keep taking back the husband who beats her up and then tell her how much he loves her...  They would rather believe the the lie rather than deal with the truth

 

I personally know some of the people who lost.  The people who will replace them are mercinaries. 

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Perhaps it is good they did as well as they did, they now have two years to screw up before the next election.....

Hmmm, not bad enough to hurt us I hope, just bad enough to go down in the next one...
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