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Newbie to the forum and scopes in general.  A lot of great information on this forum, in an effort to simply things, I'm looking for advice on a scope for an AR15 shooting paper between 100 and 1000 yards.  Is there anything out there in the 500 dollar range.  Keep in mind that I am just trying to improve my personal shooting skills and don't plan on any competition.
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First, Welcome to the OT!

If you are only shooting targets and nothing under 100 yards.

I would recommend a SS 10x or 16x.  They are good, dependable scopes with lots of elevation adjustment.  They are great scopes for learning trajectory and shooting targets at long range.

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-10x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P499.aspx

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-16x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P501.aspx

You could put the rest of your money towards a quality mount you will keep as you upgrade glass.

http://swfa.com/Bobro-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P47627.aspx

As you progress your shooting, you may want to upgrade to a high-end tactical variable scope, but the above scopes will get the job done.
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Maybe the mods will put this in the riflescope forum.
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I agree with bitterroot. Good dependable scope will get you going.

Don't expect much from your AR at 1000 yds
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thanks for the very helpful information.  I don't expect much at 1000 but it might be fun to try
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Originally posted by dmscag dmscag wrote:

thanks for the very helpful information.  I don't expect much at 1000 but it might be fun to try
So what grain bullet and what twist barrel will you be using for this Thousand Yard project?
 
I tend to consider the AR-15 a light fast platform suitable to about 300 yds with good ammo and while things do get shot out further with them a larger caliber is better suited for that prupose.  It makes little sense to me to expect these rifles to be long range guns the are better suited to be entry guns and preditor rifles as the cartridge was designed to kill a 17 lb animal at 100 yds effectively.  Seriously do you even have any idea how many MOA you would have to dial in to shoot a .223  to 1000 yds.
 
  

Federal Gold Medal match - 5.56x45mm NATO (.223) 77gr 2750fps

Bullet Drop (Inches)

100y

91m

200y

183m

300y

275m

400y

366m

500y

458m

600y

549m

700y

641m

800y

732m

900y

824m

1000y

915m

+17.7

+31.3

+38.1

+36.6

+24.7

Zero

-40.9

-101.9

-187.4

-302.1

Energy - (Muzzle: 1295 ft-lbs.)

1070

880

715

580

465

370

295

240

205

180

Wind Drift (Inches) - 10mph Crosswind

.9

3.9

9.2

17.2

28.4

43.2

61.9

85.0

112.2

143.1

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I suggest you start here and limit yourself to 600 yards until you know what you are doing there.
SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS10X42HD
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • .10 Mrad
  • HD Model
$799.95 


Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - April/13/2011 at 02:10
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/16/2011 at 22:16
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thanks urimaginary great info, i really don't have a clue on scopes but you really helped thing in persecutive.
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No problem I would either put the 3-9x42 Super Sniper or the 10x HD Super Sniper on the rifle and while I would prefer to see the 3-9 on it the 10x HD would be the better choice for really long range due to the adjustable parallax.  Honestly I think the 3-9 would be plenty of scope for its ability. 
When you really want to go ultra long range its time for a 300 Win Mag or a 300 WSM. 
used  (Id probably buy this one its in your price range)
SPL11525 SWFA 3-9x42 SS Rifle Scope DEMO-B
Click to view SS39X42, Matte, FFP Mil Dot, 30mm
$499.99
 
 
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SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42
  • Matte
  • First Focal Plane Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95 


Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - April/16/2011 at 22:33
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: April/16/2011 at 23:22
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Urimaginaryfrnd  well done on the chart thing. Thunbs Up

DMSCAG  you'll get good info from the guys here. I'm with the others who suggest that if you're just paper punching and 100 yards is the closest you'll be shooting, the 10x SS would be a really good fit. You can get the scope, a good mount, and a couple of boxes of shells without busting your budget. That would add up to more time at the range enjoying your AR. Big Smile

Happy shooting.




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