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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/18/2009 at 13:56
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There is much talk about ED glass and dielectric coatings for binoculars but I haven't ever seen this for riflescopes.  Did I just miss it or is there some reason these features wouldn't be awesome for riflescopes too?
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Super Sniper makes one...
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Originally posted by Heavishot Heavishot wrote:

There is much talk about ED glass and dielectric coatings for binoculars but I haven't ever seen this for riflescopes.  Did I just miss it or is there some reason these features wouldn't be awesome for riflescopes too?

ED glass is used on a few scopes here and there.  Nikon, Sightron and Zeiss definitely use it in some designs.  I am pretty sure some others do as well.

Dielectric coatings referred to in binocular discussions are the reflective coatings on one of the surfaces of Schmidt-Pechan roof prism and have no business being anywhere near a riflescope.

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

 
Super Sniper makes one...
 
Koshkin, is the new Super Sniper HD considered "ED"?
Not to dispute you Dan, I'm just not clear on the differences between the 2, if any.  
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HD is generally a marketing term which means "High Definition".

ED stands for "Extra Low Dispersion" which is a type of glass.  HD does not mean that ED glass has been used.  From a less than reputable brand the acronym HD would mean absolutely nothing.

As it comes to the new Super Sniper 10x42HD, I have not clue whether ED glass was used in or not (nor do I care, wuite frankly), but I do know that it handily outresolves the original 10x42 Super Sniper, so the HD label is well deserved and helps differentiate the two products from each other.

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Thought I read that the HD was going to be ED glass, but could certainly be mistaken on that...
 
AFTER FURTHER REVIEW, SS MAY NOT MAKE ONE WITH ED GLASS...
 
OOOPS... it was an email I got asking if the new SS was going to be ED glass... I never did ask the question...


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    March scopes also use ED glass. I've looked through a few of them...very impressive. -Al
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Originally posted by Al Nyhus Al Nyhus wrote:

    March scopes also use ED glass. I've looked through a few of them...very impressive. -Al
 
Al, the March scope I saw and all I've seen about them (I should probably go to their website, hunh?) indicates they are primarily benchrest.  Before I do a web search, does March make a hunting model? 
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March makes two hunting scopes.
1-10x24
2.5-25x42 ED Glass
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Thanks for all the great info guys.  I'd never heard of March Optics... They're a little out of my price range.  I wonder if we'll start to see ED in some of the more affordable scopes.  Or maybe Zen would come out with a line of riflescopes?
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Originally posted by blackm6 blackm6 wrote:

March makes two hunting scopes.
1-10x24
2.5-25x42 ED Glass
 
thank you.  very difficult to find info.  Would love to get my hands on one of these...
10x erector... WOW...
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What about Vortex Viper scopes - don't they claim to use extra-low dispersion glass?  They call it XD -- same as ED?
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Kelby sells them ... DEON Optics makes March scopes for benchrest, tactical and hunting.  They are pretty pricey and comes with a 5yr warranty which requires shipment back to Japan for the warranty work.
 
 
The glass gets outstanding marks in the reviews on all the forums.
 
The tactical model I was considering before I read the warranty was $2750.
 
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   The thing that impressed me the most about the March's optics was the ability to...for the lack of a better explanation...'see through'  the mirage.
 
    That is to say: the mirage was clearer and more distinct, while the target remained crisp and visible behind the mirage. When the mirage would go from a run to a boil and then flip the other way, I could actually see the target image displace laterally with the mirage.
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Today I opened up the latest American Rifleman magazine and there was an ad for Vortex.  Vortex Viper riflescopes have their XD glass which is what they call extra low dispersion glass.  
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Originally posted by Al Nyhus Al Nyhus wrote:

   The thing that impressed me the most about the March's optics was the ability to...for the lack of a better explanation...'see through'  the mirage.
 
    That is to say: the mirage was clearer and more distinct, while the target remained crisp and visible behind the mirage. When the mirage would go from a run to a boil and then flip the other way, I could actually see the target image displace laterally with the mirage.
Pretty impressive.  The only one I've seen, 40x on a 6mm I was not familiar with, was at one of the ranges where I shoot sometimes.  Guy was setting up a benchrest gun.  I got to look through it for about a second.  Very clean glass at initial impression.  He was pretty busy and I did not want to bother him.  It piqued my interest, though. 
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my sightron Slll 8-32x56 also has ED glass in it, maybe thats why it gets such great praises on its glass by so many. i have never heard a single negative remark regarding its glass anywhere!
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http://www.sightron.com/  ->  Alan Orr:

We currently do not use ED glass but future models will have it.

Alan




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Having used quite a few High End Scopes .I can say without a doubt The March is the best overall scope i have used.The tracking on these sopes is incredible.I shot a very nice Bull Elk on october the 12th at 905 yards with a 5-32X52 March with the MTR-1 reticle. Best clarity i have seen in a high magnification scope to date.
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Originally posted by bearslayer bearslayer wrote:

I shot a very nice Bull Elk on october the 12th at 905 yards with a 5-32X52 March with the MTR-1 reticle. 
 
Hmmmm. I really find a shot taken like that on an elk very disturbing. Hope it was a clean kill, friend.
 
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1st shot right behind the shoulder. Mid high.2nd shot3 inches to the right of the1st .piled right there. How can it be disturbing to you? You have no idea who I am.I am a sponsored shooter
I sure would not critisize someone I have no idea who they are.
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by bearslayer bearslayer wrote:

I shot a very nice Bull Elk on october the 12th at 905 yards with a 5-32X52 March with the MTR-1 reticle. 

 

Hmmmm. I really find a shot taken like that on an elk very disturbing. Hope it was a clean kill, friend.

 

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Well I see you have 10701 posts on here.Maybe you should spend some of that time practicing instead of bashing people

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Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

Stiring The Pot


Details on the shot?
 

Caliber/Cartridge?

Rifle? Twist?

Conditions?

How many Shots?

How did you range it?

 

 

ranged at 905 yards
7mm ultra magazine berger 180 Vld
could not ask for a better rest
Dead on 1 shot
1 in 8 twist. 28 IN BARREL
not my 1st Rodeo
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