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OK, I've got a bit of a dilemna.  I am trying to figure out what to do for a scope on my .308 semi-auto.  I am getting a LaRue OBR 18" as well as a Kel Tec RFB.  Mostly for use to engage man-size targets at under 600 yards.
 
So, I have a SS variable and think it is the cat's ass.  Love the clarity, mildot reticle, mil/mil, as well as forgiving eye relief and the fact I don't have to have a perfect cheekweld and eye position.
 
It currently resides on my 6.5 Grendel.  I was going to get a Vortex Viper PST 4-16 and put it on my LaRue, and was planning on putting my 4.5-14x44 Z800 Zeiss on my Kel Tec.
 
But I got to thinking - why not sell the Zeiss and put a SS on the Kel Tec?  That way the two most used rifles in certain situations will have mil/mil, mildot reticles, FFP. 
 
I like Zeiss, but I'm just wondering if the 4.5-14 with Z800 reticle is a little . . . . I dunno . . . uneccessary on any of those rifles?
 
From my understanding, depending on load, I have to set the Zeiss to a specific magnification to take advantage of the Z800 reticle.  And I can't use it to range targets.
 


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I think you have already answered your own question my friend.

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Don't get me wrong, I think Zeiss makes some of the best stuff around, but for your application, I believe the SS is your choice.  
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Either will work fine.  However, I think S.S. is a better solution.  Besides, from training standpoint, it makes sense to have the same mil/mil system on both Grendel and Kel-tec rifles.

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Makes sense to switch to an all mil/mil FFP setup. The reason I don't like ballistic reticles is because they just work with a few loads or you have to live with odd ranges. And no reticle can take into account differences in temperature, altitude or atmospheric pressure. That's fine for shots under 400 yards, but @ 600 my typical .308 load would vary by an 8" drop given 15F/4500' vs. 40F/6000'.
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Sort of what I was thinking.  Considering all the variables with the Zeiss online computer you use for your loads on the Z800, and the extra math done for ranging, and thinking in MOAs vs. mils, I'm steering towards either another Viper PST mil/mil or another Super Sniper.  As much as I love Zeiss and the clarity of my 4.5-14, as well as the "cool" factor of the reticle, it seems to me that overall I'd be better served by another scope for this application.  Learning ONE way to range and calculate holdovers (mil/mil, using a mildot master, thinking in terms of 1/10 mil clicks, etc.) seems preferrable to using the Z800 reticle. 
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Now to figure out how much I can get for my Zeiss if I sell it and how much longer the wait is for the new Vortex PSTs to come out :)
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