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Hey guys I'm looking into buying a Nikon scope.  Just wondering what the difference is in Monarch and the Team Primos (3-9x40).  Can get a really good deal on the Team Primos.  Gimme feedback!!!  Thanks 
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Team primos is last years edition Monarch, I think.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  
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Has Nikon done anything different with this years monarchs than last years?
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I don't know the specifics on those, but I can tell you that a few people are saying that the team primos is one of the best buys out there.  
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http://www.swfa.com/pc-9244-2119-nikon-3-9x40-team-primos-riflescope.aspx
Team Primos is just an older Monarch with a BDC reticle.
 
Yes, the Monarch has been updated.
 
The New Monarchs are quite nice. I have the 4-16x42mm model. 


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Bow Cheaps Nikon FOO is strong.
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Optics are still the same between nikon models, lot of upgrades but where the optics rubber meets the road in glass and coating's things seem to still be the same.

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and they jacked the prices too, sorta leupoldish move in my book, im kinda disapointed in nikon for that, cause i really like there scopes like cheap does!
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Cheaptrick,(Anyone else) YOUR EXPERTISE PLEASE......I was reading somewhere that Nikon was upgarding some lens with ED Lens. Now I tried to look up ED and found  it means Extra-low Dispersion Lens ( I think) Do you know anything about it ?

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

and they jacked the prices too, sorta leupoldish move in my book, im kinda disapointed in nikon for that, cause i really like there scopes like cheap does!
 
My new 4-16x42mm Monarch with side focus goes for around $450.
A comparable featured Conquest, for example, can be had for around $750-$800.
 
Is the Conquest better optically?? Yes, but not $300 better TO ME.
 
Bushnell new 6500's are selling for around $700.
 
The Monarch II or "Deuce" offers of a lot of scope and features for less than $500, friends. 
But, like The Dark Lord says, cheaptrick's got a bad case of "Nikonitis".......  Embarrased
 
Medic:
I don't know anything about the ED glass.
Koshkin might have some info on it though.....CUZ HE WENT TO SHOT!!!!!! Na%20Na 
   


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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

Bow Cheaps Nikon FOO is strong.
 
 
Thank you, cyborgson!! 
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

and they jacked the prices too, sorta leupoldish move in my book, im kinda disapointed in nikon for that, cause i really like there scopes like cheap does!
 
My new 4-16x42mm Monarch with side focus goes for around $450.
A comparable featured Conquest, for example, can be had for around $750-$800.
 
Is the Conquest better optically?? Yes, but not $300 better TO ME.
 
Bushnell new 6500's are selling for around $700.
 
The Monarch II or "Deuce" offers of a lot of scope and features for less than $500, friends. 
But, like The Dark Lord says, cheaptrick's got a bad case of "Nikonitis".......  Embarrased
 
Medic:
I don't know anything about the ED glass.
Koshkin might have some info on it though.....CUZ HE WENT TO SHOT!!!!!! Na%20Na 
   


My SHOT show impressions are in a separate thread, and I did talk about ED glass in a Nikon scope there.  Basically, they have ED glass in a new 8-32x50 Monarch scope.

As for optics, I think the new Monarch may have a touch better resolution than the old Monarch.  I'd need to do more testing to tell for sure, though.  That ED scope looked very good.

ILya
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I looked through the two today too.  If there was anything to choose between the two it certainly wasn't $300 worth.
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I just bought the TEAM PRIMOS Monarch . Locals wanted $300 ,and would not believe me that I could get such a great deal on it here.

I assume that it is a 1" tube, but i need to know for sure before I order a mount


Thanks for all the information you guys have posted . great forum.
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It is a 1" tube and is a steal! I used the 3-9 Monarch on a deer hunt last November. It was good to well past legal shooting hours.
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i agree with t i love mine as well
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Mounted my Team Primos Nikon today.

When checking the mechanical zero. I found that it had way more adjustment than the 55 MOA  listed in the specs.

Can somebody check my math?

I counted 314 clicks from full up to full down and 310 clicks from full left to full right.

Clicks are 1/4 MOA ,so I figure I have 78 MOA elevation and 77 MOA windage .

now , this is a lot more than 55 MOA and I think is a good thing.

Can I rely on all of that being useable ???

I have not actually test fired and zeroed yet. Just boresighted.
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I think I will start a new thread with my question
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I have used the older Monarchs and really liked them, had both the 3-9 and 4-12, bought a new one in 3-12x42 with the BDC and while the BDC worked as advertized I didn't really like it in a hunting situation, trying to pop a doe in the neck at 250 yards I was between the circles and would have preferred just a standard reticle..
I bought a conquest 4.5-14 a few days later and franky I wasn't blown away by it, bought a Swarovksi 3-10x42 american off the sample list, it's a tiny bit clearer / sharper than the zeiss

in all honesty, while I like the Swarovksi I would could have two 3-12 new monarchs and have two guns fitted with great scopes for the same money...
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