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Hey guys,
I ordered a cooper 54 Excalibur in .308 win that will be my primary hunting rifle. I got it with the green synthetic stock. I'm having an awful time choosing a scope for it. This rifle will be used to hunt deer, black bear, hogs, and someday caribou. Primarily, it will be used in Northeastern Pennsylvania in dark woods where shots are really never over 100 yards and rifle season always seems to be wet .  Light gathering ability will be paramount as well as a reticle that will be good at dawn/dusk. It will also go to Montana every other year or so to sling a 150 gr boattail at an antelope or mule deer. I never plan on shooting this rifle more than 275-300 yards and it will be at large game so a 6X magnification on the top end will be plenty. Because of the close quarter woods hunting this rifle will do I'm very interested in a large field of view at the low end. Lastly, I don't really want the scope to be longer than 12" or weigh more than a pound. I like the Swaro Z3 3-9X36 but wish it had a lower magnification on bottom. What would you buy with a budget of $1,000?
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Here is a great scope I have used. The glass is crystal clear and the 4A reicle is great for low light use.

http://swfa.com/Meopta-3-10x50-Meostar-R1-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P8005.aspx

I hunt in similar conditions in MI and this is an optimum set up. Having 3x on the bottom end has not been a problem for me in the thick stuff.
If you don't want to go with a 50mm objective there are also a bunch of great choices. Trijicon, Conquest and the Z3 are amongst them. I have only used the Conquest and with the 4A in the 3-9x40 would be very good also.

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-3-9x40-Conquest-Rifle-Scope-P5400.aspx

The Zeiss also comes in a 50mm. I find the 50mm objectives to look unbalanced in a 1" tube vs the same objective with a 30mm tube.






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Well, I can tell you the little Swaro is a great scope (especially at this sale price). They are now backordered @SWFA, but there should be more soon. Another choice would be Minox ZA5. The 1.5-8 X 32 or the 2-10 X 40 would certainly suffice. For very good low light performance, check out the Trijicon Accupoints. I have a 3-9 X 40 that is sweet. The new Leupy Z6 will soon be available...the 2-12 X 42 might be nice also. Tons-o-choices out there for that sweet rifle.
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Doug,
The Meopta is intriguing. Light for a 30 mm tube. Please tell me the posted specs are incorrect and it's not really 21 inches long.
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I think the specs listed are wrong and I will get measurements later. Here it is on my brothers RRA Predator with a sun shade attached. It is not a overly large scope by any means.


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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

Well, I can tell you the little Swaro is a great scope (especially at this sale price). They are now backordered @SWFA, but there should be more soon. Another choice would be Minox ZA5. The 1.5-8 X 32 or the 2-10 X 40 would certainly suffice. For very good low light performance, check out the Trijicon Accupoints. I have a 3-9 X 40 that is sweet. The new Leupy Z6 will soon be available...the 2-12 X 42 might be nice also. Tons-o-choices out there for that sweet rifle.


Minox 1.5-8 looks about PERFECT for what I'm looking for. I'm just a bit concearned about the eye relief. It says > 4 and I just read a review that it is approx 4.5. I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to mount it far enough forward.
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Well I've been obsessing over this all day. I'm not sure why I'm in such a hurry to make a decision since I have 4 months until the rifle arrives. So far I think this will be the setup. Thanks bugs for bringing the Minox to my attention.

http://swfa.com/Minox-15-8x32-ZA5-Riflescope-P48153.aspx

http://swfa.com/Talley-Lightweight-Aluminum-1-Scopemount-P4963.aspx
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Trijicon 3-9x40 would be my first choice due to the close shots and low light. Next would be a scope with the hydrophobic coating for rain, i.e Elite series Bushnell or Sightron Bigsky.
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Originally posted by slimatsea slimatsea wrote:

Well I've been obsessing over this all day. I'm not sure why I'm in such a hurry to make a decision since I have 4 months until the rifle arrives. So far I think this will be the setup. Thanks bugs for bringing the Minox to my attention.

http://swfa.com/Minox-15-8x32-ZA5-Riflescope-P48153.aspx

http://swfa.com/Talley-Lightweight-Aluminum-1-Scopemount-P4963.aspx


FWIW, I have a Cooper Jackson Hunter in 25-06. It wears a Swaro 3-10 X 42 (This is the older AV series with the TDS reticle which was the forerunner of the newer Z3 series) and it's a wonderful rig. I've also got a wonderful S&B Summit on a Sako 75 and am looking at the new Leica 2.5-10 X 42 as the next purchase. The bottom line IMO is to put the very best glass on your new rifle as possible. Patience Grasshopper! Big Grin

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Have a Minox ZA-5 on my Winchester M70 LH 270 WSM.   I can mount it plenty far forward to accomodate the eye relief.  I would suggest checking one out.
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I've never been a fan of 30mm tubes on deer rifles.  A bit bulkier and sometimes heavier than needed. 
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2-7x36 Kahles CL, great scope if you can find one, light and compact and outstanding optics
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Originally posted by graywolf.260 graywolf.260 wrote:

2-7x36 Kahles CL, great scope if you can find one, light and compact and outstanding optics


+1 but good luck finding one!!!

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