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So i'm starting to put together some idea's for my next rifle build. I'm leaning heavily towards the 300 Win Mag. I'm getting more and more into the long range game and although i really like what i've seen from the 338 LM, i can't justify the cost it'd would take to shoot regularly nor do i have space to really get the longer ranges of the 338.

Mainly something that i can use on targets 8-1200 yards recreationally. I've found some good target spots on state gamelands so i have the space to do some long distance plinking.

I'd like to go the custom route and am willing to save over the next year or so to accomplish. 2.5-3+ K isn't out of the question.

Who would you  recommend in the custom sector of rifle making for a 300 Win Mag. I've been told GA Precision is worth a look as are Van Dyke outfit from Kansas. Anyone else i should be looking at?

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Are you looking for a sporter weight or something along the "tactical" type line. Sounds like you want a sporter/hunting rifle that is accurate enough to go the distance as well.
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Savage 110 BA!  I thoughts you was getting one too!  I plan on ordering mine around mid year!
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Are you looking for a sporter weight or something along the "tactical" type line. Sounds like you want a sporter/hunting rifle that is accurate enough to go the distance as well.


More along the lines of a "tactical" setup but again, im open to anything that will give me the ability to consistently hit targets out to 1200ish yards.

I had been interested in the Savage 110BA but mixed reviews leave me a little guarded. If you do get  one this year G, i'll definitely be interested to see how she does for you!
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Originally posted by shooter07 shooter07 wrote:

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Are you looking for a sporter weight or something along the "tactical" type line. Sounds like you want a sporter/hunting rifle that is accurate enough to go the distance as well.


More along the lines of a "tactical" setup but again, im open to anything that will give me the ability to consistently hit targets out to 1200ish yards.

I had been interested in the Savage 110BA but mixed reviews leave me a little guarded. If you do get  one this year G, i'll definitely be interested to see how she does for you!
 
I have already allocated a savings account just for it so I will be getting it. once the funds free up some more i'll order it.
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Originally posted by shooter07 shooter07 wrote:

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Are you looking for a sporter weight or something along the "tactical" type line. Sounds like you want a sporter/hunting rifle that is accurate enough to go the distance as well.


More along the lines of a "tactical" setup but again, im open to anything that will give me the ability to consistently hit targets out to 1200ish yards.

I had been interested in the Savage 110BA but mixed reviews leave me a little guarded. If you do get  one this year G, i'll definitely be interested to see how she does for you!


Get a Remy 5r (mil-spec) in 300wm!!!

PM Wes, he's got one in just about every caliber available.





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My opinion, I would not get to hung up on having someone like GAP build you one.  You will be adding a hefty chunk of money for just the name.  

My local smith only charged me $300ish to install a barrel and bed my action. 
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GA Precision has a great reputation for building tactical type rifles, but to be perfectly honest, there isn't any big mystery in putting together one. You have LOTS of custom benchrest rifle builders out there in PA that could put together exactly what you are looking for, such as R.W. Hart & Son in Nescopeck.
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I appreciate the suggestions thus far. 
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+1 also to what mike650 just recommended.
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I really like GAP rifles.  Every detail is taken into account.  They are well respected in the LE precision community.  Its true that you can get a rifle that shoots nearly as good for less, but GAP rifles are nice in every way.
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You might wanna talk to Dan about the builder he just used.  I think he's pretty happy to say the least.

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Yeah, i'm just looking for shop suggestions by those who have had custom jobs done. Place i can look into and of course i do put a lot of stock into what the regulars around here say. A lot of great people that know more than i do. 
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I'm much in the same boat as you Paul. I want mine in a .300 Wby though, without the standard Wby throat. With so many good smiths, and so many good companies making components, how does a guy choose? I was going to ask the question about barrels, but I'll start my own thread instead of hijacking yours. Do you have the components in mind for this build, or are you seeking suggestions from the smith?
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My problem is i've never had a custom shop build me a rifle so to this point i've never really looked hard. Mel Ewing at Sniper Central in Montana put together my Remy700 but the action and barrel were straight from the factory. The only difference was a B&C stock. Shoots like a dream though, so i'm definitely not complaining.

I can google hundreds of "custom gun shops" and get results but i have little knowledge on the who's who of the bunch.
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Hard to beat a 5R.


I have a GAP non-typical hunter, fit and finish and detail are perfect - as well they should be.  It is a beautiful rifle and shoots quite well.

For a tactical gun, I'd be hard pressed to recommend custom when a 5R can be had.  Hell, tweak it if you want, put it in a better stock, and you are still under what a full custom would cost.

Several of my tac guns are 700s with trued bolts, improved (mostly Timney) triggers, external mags, and improved stocks.  Get tnuts if you want and put on a better barrel, but it's hard to be a factory 700 that shoots well.  Herein lies the conundrum: you might get a 700 that shoots 1/2MOA out of the box, or you might get one that shoots 1.5MOA out of the box.  You either get a great deal or an OK deal.  For a custom (like GAP or McMillan or "other"), if it doesn't shoot 1/2MOA, you send it back and have them fix it.  You pay for the certainty of getting a very accurate gun.

Personally, I'd get a 5R in a Manners T5A with their new chassis (total $2000 all in), maybe a Timney trigger ($200) and be done.  it'll be a tack driver and fit like a glove.

Voice of experience.  And the voice of someone who has owned (and very much likes) GAP rifles.
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Mike Cuypers, Bijou Creek... www.bijoucreek.com.  He builds hunting rifles, tactical rifles, target rifles.  He makes some danged awesome looking dangerous game rifles... may be my next acquisition.

Will work with you on what you want.  Great guy, good prices, AWESOME rifles.  Demonically accurate...
He will help you with ammo, as well...

My rifle weighs 12lb, currently, but I'm going to get him to build me a "hunting stock".  It will weigh 7-8lb, total, then...  the brake it has on it, it will still have less recoil than a 12ga shotgun.  
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As always RC and KB your recommendations are much appreciated! Thunbs Up




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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Hard to beat a 5R.


I have a GAP non-typical hunter, fit and finish and detail are perfect - as well they should be.  It is a beautiful rifle and shoots quite well.

For a tactical gun, I'd be hard pressed to recommend custom when a 5R can be had.  Hell, tweak it if you want, put it in a better stock, and you are still under what a full custom would cost.

Several of my tac guns are 700s with trued bolts, improved (mostly Timney) triggers, external mags, and improved stocks.  Get tnuts if you want and put on a better barrel, but it's hard to be a factory 700 that shoots well.  Herein lies the conundrum: you might get a 700 that shoots 1/2MOA out of the box, or you might get one that shoots 1.5MOA out of the box.  You either get a great deal or an OK deal.  For a custom (like GAP or McMillan or "other"), if it doesn't shoot 1/2MOA, you send it back and have them fix it.  You pay for the certainty of getting a very accurate gun.

Personally, I'd get a 5R in a Manners T5A with their new chassis (total $2000 all in), maybe a Timney trigger ($200) and be done.  it'll be a tack driver and fit like a glove.

Voice of experience.  And the voice of someone who has owned (and very much likes) GAP rifles.


The one i had put together from SC is a factory 700 and with 168 grain Sierra Matchkings i can drill 1/2 MOA all day.  Lucky, as i know people who have 700's that shoot over 1", just like you stated.
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I have yet to hear of any of the Rem 5R's that are not real shooters. I have a 5R in .308 and all I did was change the trigger to a Rifle Basics trigger. It is one of the most accurate shooters I own, just after my JP. But it seems that with the other Rem's it is a luck of the draw.

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surgeon, or stiller will build you one, but you really haven't given much detail as type of stock, action etc. you want. If you want a .5 moa 300 out of the box and no headaches in or with the build, just get a TRG, you can't beat the trigger (except maybe a Hueber). With the money your talking I'd look and windrunner and DTA. Hardcore precision tacticals are big and heavy, if you still want to hunt with it, consider a caliber change and look at the Savage long range hunter in 6.5/284 which will shoot with any 300, if not better, and with their new stock bedding system should provide a good alternative to their old ones. Personally I'd get the DTA (Desert Tactical Arms).
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I'd like a tactical stock for this build, and i'm looking at a long action (300WM). I like everything i've heard about the 5R rifling and i'm leaning towards that route. A 1-10 or 1-11 twist rate if i go another route. Just about everyone i've talked to said those are the twist rates to go for on a 300WM. 
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one of the best bullets i've ran for target have been the 208 AMAX, that said they haven't performed well on game, or to my liking at least.  I tried 210 berger, 220 SMK, 240 SMK, and a bunch more but the 208AMAX wins when it comes to target.  My twist is a 10 and it stablized everything I tried.  I would shoot for a 10 twist if i where you but an 11 has been known to stablize the 208 as well.
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