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Hello all. I'm new here as a poster, but I've been reading here and other places around the web for many years. I'm a long term hunter / shooter who has owned / mounted / used dozens of scopes since the late 70's.

Last fall, I purchased a Vortex Crossfire 4-12x40mm for a bolt action 22, which was a step up for the 22, but not as high end a scope as I've been moving toward for my centerfire rifles. I chose this scope from features and reviews; I had never looked through one. When it arrived, I was completely surprised at the quality of every aspect. I put it on the 22, and it performed flawlessly.

At Christmas, my wife bought me a new gun, (1885 Winchester falling block, in 6.5 CM caliber), which obviously required a new scope. I snatched the Crossfire off the 22 and put it on the new gun until I could decide what I wanted. Since I had such a great experience with the Crossfire, I thought I'd move up in the Vortex line. I'm more of a hunter, so I chose a 4-16x50 Viper HS.

First trip to the range ended in disappointment. I couldn't get the new Viper clearly focused at 100 yards. My son (who still has good eyes) gave it a try and had the same issue. The best focus we could get was around the 100 yard mark on the side focus knob, but the target was still blurry. When I got home, I compared it to the Crossfire, and it was as expected, not nearly as clear.

Another disappointment, per specs on the Vortex web site, the Viper is supposed to have a 27.4' field of view at 100 yards at 4x & the Crossfire is supposed to have a 24.7' field of view at 100 yards also at 4x. Looking from my shop toward my house, which is exactly 300' away, I can see 2.5 of my carport openings with the Crossfire, which are each 10' wide for a total field of view around 25'. With the Viper HS, I can only see two openings and MAYBE 2' more for a total field of view around 22', which is 20% less than the published FOV spec.

1. So, did I get the latest Crossfire (it is a Crossfire "II") which is improved to a level better than the next line of products? 2. Did I get an old generation Viper HS that is not as good as a newer Viper (is there a Viper "II") ?
3. Or did I get a defective scope?
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I would call vortex and talk to them. They have amazing customer service. They will likely replace the scope for you with little to no questions asked. They are outstanding that way.
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Id say you got a dud.... Vortex will make it right for sure.  one of the best CS companies you will ever deal with.
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Yes call Vortex. They will take care of you.
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They are having me send it back to them
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