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Craig Boddington sold his soul to the devil |
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mike650 ![]() Optics God ![]() Joined: May/14/2006 Location: West of Rockies Status: Offline Points: 13049 |
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Fish to Live, Live to Hunt
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pyro6999 ![]() Optics Retard ![]() ![]() OT TITAN Joined: December/22/2006 Location: North Dakota Status: Offline Points: 22034 |
i dont know fellars, craig and chris have shared some great memories together it may be more "contractual" issues than anything.
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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Rancid Coolaid ![]() Optics Jedi Master ![]() ![]() Joined: January/19/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8413 |
Yea, it might.
I was just surprised to see a man of Craig's perceived integrity hocking such a piece of garbage. One thing that frequently gets lost in these conversations: LE and military shooters might read this review and buy the scope on recommendation, and lives can be lost due to gear malfunction - and this thing is one huge gear malfunction. |
The plural of "anecdote" is not "data."
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danjojoUSMC ![]() Optics Journeyman ![]() ![]() Joined: August/20/2009 Location: NE Ohio Status: Offline Points: 329 |
I'm betting they made sure to send in their best currently at the distribution point because Guns & Ammo and Boddington are very well known names. Not sure if Mr. Boddington is an optics lover or how much he cares about their differences here and there.
It's good you canceled the G&A subscription though....I had one from 7 years old to 18 years old but the last 8 years or so I check them out at Borders now and then and it's garbage. Maybe 9 good pages of reading if that. Should be a $1 cost if even that.
Hopefully the wise consumer will do his internet search before purchase and that'll lead him to this site.
The Dark Ops group sure are persistent ______ if there ever was some....they need to move on to a completely new product arena.
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"When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be"
"Every part of life comes into focus just as you are about to pull the trigger." |
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jonoMT ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: November/13/2008 Location: Montana Status: Offline Points: 4806 |
Can't give much creedence to a magazine that recommends NcStar.
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Reaction time is a factor...
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Al Nyhus ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() Joined: March/08/2009 Status: Offline Points: 127 |
Ummmm...I doubt any lives are at risk.
![]() There might be a few Play Army types that get disappointed, though. The upside of it is they'll have saved enough money to buy some more sniper-y face paint or maybe even a fightin' knife for dangerous recons at the mall.
It's scary out there, 'ya know..............
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"Marsupials scare me".
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3_tens ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() ![]() Joined: January/08/2007 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7476 |
There are a lot of police departments that are cutting back. Tulsa just layed off 17 officers and grounded both Helicopters to save money. The bean counters
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Folks ain't got a sense of humor no more. They don't laugh they just get sore.
Need to follow the rules. Just hard to determine which set of rules to follow Now the rules have changed again. |
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Al Nyhus ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() Joined: March/08/2009 Status: Offline Points: 127 |
In the case of equipment that may be used in a shooting situation, the attorneys for the city will make sure that's what's issued will be "normal and customary" equipment when compared to other cities. This protects the office and city in the event of a civil suit brought by a shooting victim and/or their family/dependents. The use of factory ammo only by police depts. is another example of this.
The attorneys have it right, in this instance. -Al
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"Marsupials scare me".
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Rancid Coolaid ![]() Optics Jedi Master ![]() ![]() Joined: January/19/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8413 |
Actually, more LE guys than you know aren't "gun guys." I know of one department shooter who bought the Countersniper because of this review. He doesn't know much about guns or optics, and he replaced an old Leupold on his duty .308. |
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Rancid Coolaid ![]() Optics Jedi Master ![]() ![]() Joined: January/19/2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8413 |
You speak with much authority, but I wonder what your sources are? I know many LE shooters, some have nice gear, some have a deer rifle with a 3-9 Leupold. Many LE shooters have gone through a 2-day training course and not failed, so now they ride with a .308 in the trunk. (Granted, these are small towns, but the point remains.) I appreciate your enthusiasm, but beware of the, "Ready, Fire, Aim" thing, if you don't mind. |
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KY Hick ![]() Optics Apprentice ![]() ![]() Joined: August/18/2008 Location: Louisville, KY. Status: Offline Points: 93 |
I was going to ask anybody here if they knew about the new T/C Warlord. I was out of town on a delay and picked up the first G&A mag I have have in a long time (38 now 17 then) nothing but ad's hated it, Nov 2009. But T/C has a new Tac rifle the Warlord, and it looks real nice. I have a T/C 10/22 Benchmark model and it is the most accurate rifle I have. I love it and ground squirells hate it. But the cover pic of the rifle (yes it made the cover) had a Counter Sniper scope on it. I asked about these along time ago, and got nothing good. I did the same on other forums with the same output. I did not buy a SS, but if I was deciding again I sure wouldnt buy a CS scope. If it wasnt for my father getting me a Leo MK4 for Xmas I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE SUPER SNIPER!!!!!!! I really hate to see products like that get mixed in with products like T/C they got it going! I have heard nothing but good things about there rifles, and there 10/22 I would take back to war with me I luv it! I dont know where my advice is going but fawk CS scopes and luv TC rifles. BUY SS or spend what you want!
Say what you want but I LOVE MY T/C 10/22 Benchmark more than any gun I got!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RONK ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: April/05/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3199 |
I have met very few cops who know or care much for guns. (One was a pretty young lady who didn't ever want to fire her 12 gauge 870 trunk gun because it "scared her, and she would never use it in an emergency, anyway".
![]() Also, it really is disturbing to me to see how dangerous some of these guys are when handling firearms, sweeping the muzzle, finger on triggers, not clearing weapons when handing them off to others, etc.
I'm starting to form the opinion that, generally speaking, cops should not be issued weapons at all. If they think they need one, and have to buy it out of their own pockets, they'll want to do some research and learn enough about them to be semi-proficient, hopefully. If they aren't willing to do at least that much, both they and the public are probably safer if they only carry mace and a radio. I'd be interested in hearing what you guys think about that.
And before any of you cops start complaining about stretching you salary dollars as it is, without having to buy a gun every ten or fifteen years, I can assure you that a lot of professionals in many fields spend a lot more than one or two percent of their income on the vital tools of the respective trades.
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pyro6999 ![]() Optics Retard ![]() ![]() OT TITAN Joined: December/22/2006 Location: North Dakota Status: Offline Points: 22034 |
i can see what your saying ron and agree to a point, but as a fireman and a first responder, i will also disagree with your statement. sometimes we get called out to what i call "scary situations" i prefer that the guys with guns diffuse the issue before i have to show up. we dont carry guns, and more and more im reading stories where firemen are getting shot at scenes. i totally agree with the points you make concerning the fact that if they put their own money into a service weapon they might take more time to become properly trained to use it etc. |
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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead" 343 we will never forget God Bless Chris Ledoux "good ride cowboy" |
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billyburl2 ![]() Optics Master Extraordinaire ![]() ![]() Joined: January/08/2009 Location: Cottonwood, AZ Status: Offline Points: 3972 |
Ya Ron I have spent several thousand over my career in tools that get used for a week or two every year, then back into the garage! But I cannot support sending unarmed police out into public. While I would appreciate more training, that is not going to happen anytime soon with the current sentiment in this country. It is a crying shame that if most police officers show anything more than basic proficiency with their firearms and then are in lop-sided shoot out(they all should be) they are branded as assassins and run over by the liberal media, so that they are guilty before ever reaching trial! Even if cleared of any criminal charges there reputations are normally ruined. Ok rant over!
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If it is tourist season, why can't we shoot them?
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