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I got this in an e-mail from a friend that has been so kind to add me to his address book and forwarding list of never ending, odd and unusual e-mails....I'm sure all of you have such a friend.  Does anyone know if it is true.

 

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Captain Kangaroo passed away on January 23, 2004 as age 76 , which is odd, because he always looked to be 76. (DOB: 6/27/27.)  It reminded me of the following story.

Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside  3 and 4 star generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service  (USMC). Nothing  else.

Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys?  Well, following is the amazing answer: I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.

In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear-echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero.  He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima. There is only one higher Naval award...  the Medal Of Honor.

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson": His guest was Lee Marvin.  Johnny said, "Lee, I'll bet a lot of  people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima...  and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach.


Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety.


He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life. That  Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, where'd they get you Lee?'


"Well Bob... if you make it home before me,  tell Mom to sell the outhouse!"

Johnny, I'm not  lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew. The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wi mpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name.  He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps.  He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life.
He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and  charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best.  They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all  enjoy.

Look around and see if you can find one of  those heroes in your midst. Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect,  but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.

Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers.

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We sometime overlook people whom we don't think are not capable of donig heroic deeds whether it be in war or everyday life, just because they dont live up to our expectations of being that gun ho macho type that they just be able to perform to our expaectations, this is sad. I never really understood my grandfather, my dad or many other adults when I was a kid and fantasized about being a soldier and wondered why they never spoke of what they did in the war. I now have a different perspective since I served in Viet Nam with a group that later became famous do to thier service during WWII. i came home to unrest and alot of disrespect from the young people and some older, not like the fanfare received by the returning veterans of the other wars this is also sad, just look at the wall and see if  tears dont come to your eyes.

There were alot of heroes like Lee Marvin, Captain Kangaroo, and Mr Rogers that we dont know about as they all felt like it was the other guy and not them that were the heroes. Im sorry if I have offened anyone or that I sound like a flag waver but this my country and I love it dearly and all of those that have come before me that di thier part to preserve our rights and freedoms.

When you see avet please extend your hand and say thankyou and welcome home they will appreciated the recognition and look in thier face and see if a tear appears as they are also proud. We had a saying in Viet Nam that went " Freedom Has A Price That The Protected Will Never Know" little did I know what that meant at the time but now I do and think of it every morning as I raise my flag up my pole.

 

Thankyou for reading this its my opinion and I am not trying to force it off on anyone.

Terry (Kraut) Lichtenberger

E company 2nd Battalian 506th Infantry

101 st Airborne Division

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Good stories, but not true.  Lee Marvin was a WWII Marine hero.  He was in some of the heaviest of Pacific fights and was wounded in action.  He had horrible emotional scarring from his battlefield service.  This lead to his heavy drinking that resulted in his premature death.  Captain Kangaroo was not a war hero.  He joined the Marines in 1945 at the age of 18.  The war ended with him still in boot camp.  Mr.Rogers was not a Navy Seal and he did not have numerous tatoos.  These stories have been floating around for years.  Interesting, but not true.

 

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I heard that Mr Roger's was a Marine. Did he serve at all?

 

I also thought the Bob Keeshan story was a stone cold fact. 

 

 

 

 

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I am absolutely positive about the Capt. Kangaroo story being a myth and I am positive about Mr.Rogers.  If I remember correctly Mr.Rogers was not in the military.  I could be wrong about him not being in any service, but he was not a Seal.

 

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I would like to make myself a little clearer in that I believe that anyone who has served his or her country are heroes in my eyes, some will tell you the real heroes did not come home alive some give more than others.
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Both urban legends.  Check any ul site (snopes, urbanlegend, ...)
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I've actually heard quite a few stories about actors and such being in the military.

 

Myself being Marine have heard that Mr. Rogers was not a SEAL.  He wasn't a Scout Sniper like some think.  He was Marine Force Recon Marine in Vietnam. 

I don't listen to his music but Shaggy was a Marine, and although it may be hard to say but Pee Wee Herman or LCpl Herman was a Marine as well.  I know this because one of my old Plt Sgt's was in the same unit as he was.

 

Walt Disney is another one.  He was a Marine but got out on a BCD, and it was rumored that a lot of his early employees and any who got out because of a BCD he would hire, of course if they worked and weren't complete bags.

 

Never heard of Capt. Kangaroo, not sure if that one is true, but Pee Wee and Shaggy I'm positive about.

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Mithran, incorrect.  Wrong on Mr. Rogers  and Walt Disney.  I don't know who Shaggy is or about Pee Wee Herman.  Walt Disney was in the Army and was Dishonorably Discharged from the 3rd Infantry Division.  If you see any old pictures of him in his office you can see his framed discharge papers hung upside down, directly behind his desk.  I never knew why Disney received a dishonorable, but he must not have held a grudge.  He designed and donated a large bronze statue of "Rocky The Marne Dog", which was on display in Wurzburg at the Division HQ in the Marne Gardens.  I don't know where Rocky is now that they reflaged the 24th ID to 3ID.  I guess he is in GA.  He was actually anatomically correct until MG Schoffner's wife took offense and his tools were removed.  There was quite a bit of complaining about this and they were scheduled to be re-attached.  I don't know if Rocky ever became whole again, incidentally the Div moto is "Rock of the Marne"  from WWI fame.  Hence "Rocky the Marne Dog".

 

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BOB KEESHAN. Born in New York City, New York, U.S.A., 27 June 1927. Attended Fordham University, 1946-49. Served in United States Marine Corps Reserve, 1945-46

 

 

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Originally posted by Brady Brady wrote:

 

Kids, today were going to learn how to render our enemies ineffective by providing and sustaining accurate, overhelming firepower with some help from our friend the M4.

 

Get ready to fire for effect you maggots!!!

 

Good one, Brady!!   

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the mister rogers story is B.S. if u look at his bio there is no mention of him in the service at all, he actually got into tt.V. in the 195? something.
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