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I just came across this info and thought I'd share it here. Should be sweet.

Cooper Short Action model 54
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Looks sweet. That in .250 Savage would be nifty for my wife!
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Nice!  Any idea what they cost?
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Cool, finally a light weight rifle (6.5 pounds) for hunting from them.  Thunbs Up
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Just a side note after visiting their very nice site; Dan Cooper is no longer mentioned in their history.
Cooper makes some beautiful guns. The only one I've toyed with was an M22 in 22-250. It had the satin, and I believe stainless, barrel with gorgeous wood. It was quite a piece to look at and the trigger was like glass.
Too bad there isn't a .260 in the 54.
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You're in luck Tahqua;  It says they're making the 54 in .260.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Just a side note after visiting their very nice site; Dan Cooper is no longer mentioned in their history.
Cooper makes some beautiful guns. The only one I've toyed with was an M22 in 22-250. It had the satin, and I believe stainless, barrel with gorgeous wood. It was quite a piece to look at and the trigger was like glass.
Too bad there isn't a .260 in the 54.


My cousin just picked up a M52 (The Jackson Hunter) in .280 and it's sweet. The only thing I don't like about it is the weight.
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Was your cousin's Jackson hunter the wood or composite stock?
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my biggest problem with coopers is the safe switch-- at least for a hunting gun, its just sort of there, not near as positive as I'd like.
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last I heard Wilson barrel people were acquiring cooper, (make the barrels for the coopers already)  has anyone heard how this ended???

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or begins-- depending how you look at it.
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It's a done deal.  Wilson now runs Cooper.
 
The 54 is a very nice rifle!
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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

Was your cousin's Jackson hunter the wood or composite stock?


composite
It's almost 8 pounds "out of the box".  Weight Lifter
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Ive been following this rifle for a few months, calling Cooper. This rifle may be available in a Synthetic Stock later next year for those who choose. Also it will be available in stainless which is my favorite.. This will not happen until late sping, after the proto type has been out awhile and people start requesting it.....I would like a 260 as well, although Ive not read where they are all that accurate, but hopefully Im just reading the wrong information. The 260  sure sounds nice to me, I wish they would make it in a 6.5x55 Swede as well.Smile
 
 
Mike! You starting to get pretty pumped up there, better back off the roids dude, your gonna blow up.Bucky


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I wish they made the 260 and 6.5x55 with 1 in 8 twist instead of 1 in 10.  I use 140g Gamekings and this would help.
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Billy, Do you mean Coopers? I did not realize that the 1-10 twist would affect a 140 that much, interesting. I need to find out what my Sako 7 08 twist is...
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if you wanna shoot 140's in a 6.5 you really need a 1:9 at a minimum, i use a 1:9 in both of my 6.5's the .264 win mag and also the 6.5rem mag, my .264 wont shoot anything but 140gr sgk's but my 6.5 will shoot 120gr tsx's as well as 130gr accubonds very well with that same 1:9 unless you plan to shoot a bullet that is in the 150-160gr range you can get buy without a 1:8 twist in your tube.

julio, im betting your sako is a 1:9.5 a lot of manufactures must think that everybody wants to use 150gr or heavier bullets no matter what variety of 7mm rifle they own.
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I shoot 140gr. in my 7 08 Im gonna be going to the Accubonds like you do Hunter for the higher BC. The 1:9.5 twist should be ok, right?
 
I will be looking at these 54 Coopers a little more seriously after they come out in stainless. Id trade that Kimber for one....I like the smaller calibers of course.....
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i would think so, the thing about the accubonds is that they are long for there weight which helps it stabilize. more bearing surface to use and its a little lighter of a bullet with a higher b.c.
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Would you say Hunter that the accubond would be my best bet for LR hunting? Sounds like it.
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im no expert so i cant give you an affirmative answer. it is a good bullet though. i would assume that anything similar in design would preform similar to it, the swift scirroccoII the hornady sst etc. 
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For typical hunting distances BCs are not going to make that much difference.  It would have to be a huge jump up to make any noticeable difference.  And even then at 200 to 300 yards, who cares if it drops a itty bit more.

A 140 grain Nosler partition with a .435 and a 200 yard zero going 2800 fps from barrel will drop 7.7 inches at 300 yards.  The accubond with the .485 will drop 7.5 inches at 300 yards. 

Personally I would just find the one that shoots best in your gun and go with that.  The BCs are just not that important at typical hunting distances.  Bullet construction based on the game you will shoot is more important.  And even that is a moot point to an extent. 
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at 100yds yeah b.c's dont matter, but you know just as well as i do that when the winds blowing 25 mph across you (typical day out west) and your trying to make a 400-500yd shot that the higher b.c. bullets will give you an advantage. the further the shot the more apparent the b.c advantage will come into play obviously. i dont pay any attention to b.c myself, like super said find a good quality bullet that shoots well in your gun and go with it. imo the nosler accubond will take down anything you want it to.
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Now you are taking things to the extreme.  Who is really going to shoot a 500 yard shot at a deer in a 25mph full value wind.  Wink  I don't think I would dare, but I guess some might try it.

Bank to typical distances, at 300 yards in a 25 mph it is going to be less than 2 inches difference in wind drift. 

If we look at a 10mph wind at 300 yards it is less than 1 inch differnce between the two.  At 500 yards with the 10 mph wind it is just over 2 inches difference.

The more important thing here is to know how far your bullet will drift or drop at the given distance in the given wind.  They you can make adjustments for it.
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