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Are there any variable scopes BESIDES Swarovski, Zeiss, and Kahles with constant eye relief?
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Thats not many to choose from...

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If memory serves me right Bushnell Elite 4200 scopes have constant eye relief.

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I've read a lot here about constant eye relief, but I've never read why it's better.  What difference does it make?  I've got scopes that have constant eye relief and scopes that don't, and I can't tell any difference when using them. 
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Koshkin: It appears Bushnell does not offer a constant eye relief scope, looking at the website and tech data in their brochure.

mwyates: I would be interested in knowing what scopes you have with the constant eye relief besides the ones in my original post. Man, I have looked everywhere for a variable scope with a constant eye relief.

For me the Constant Eye Relief (CER) is critical when shooting a magnum / high recoil rifle. Without CER, eye relief changes / reduced with the variable power range, say 4 - 12,14 or 16 from my experience.
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Then what you are interested in is not necessariily constant eye relief, but rather sufficiently long eye relief at all magnifications.

Then you may want to look at Burris Signature/Black Diamond scopes as well as Zeiss Conquest.

As for Elite 4200, I recall doing some measurements of eye relief on a 2.5-10x40 and it was pretty constant.  It was not very long, mind you, but constant.

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Hogwild,

 

I've got two Conquests, a 3-9X40 and a 4.5-14X44.  Both are supposed to have constant eye relief.  I've got several Leupold VX III's, some Burris and others that don't.  I really never notice any difference while using them.  The only scope I use that I can tell a difference on is my FX III 6X42.  It seems to have a much larger "sweet spot", where I get a full view, than any of the variables. 

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For me...the Constant Eye Relief found in a Ziess, Kahles and Swarovski, eliminates the question of what is sufficient eye relief, tolerance, and variables found in many scopes that are not CER. I do agree with you however, different scopes have different eye relief, and what may be sufficient to some may not be to others. After many years of trial and error with different scopes, I found that CER provides a optimum performance factor when eye relief becomes a real issue, as it has for me.... especially with higher power scopes and Magnums with heavy recoil.
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Fixed eye relief allows the shooter to maintain the same positioning and/or cheek weld irregardless of power setting.

Depends on the shooter, IMO.

 

I like it, but I'm not sure it's critical.

Some shooters will notice, while others would not.

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I am generally more concerned with non-critical eye relief, than with constant eye relief, but as cheaptrick said, it is personal.

I've also noticed that depending on the shooting position, the exact head position changes.  I set up my scopes to be just right at the highest magnification in the prone shooting position.  With most other shooting positions, my head is a little further from the scope, but I also tend to keep the scope at a lower magnification which gives me longer eye relief.  If push comes to shove, it is easier to move my head a little forward than a little backwards, anyway.

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Koshkin and me are "crawlers"...
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Koshkin and me are "crawlers"...


I've got the scars to prove it.
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mwyates....... how do you like that FX lll 6x42?  I'm looking at putting something like that on a .284 Win for my 12 yr old son to shoot this fall during Deer season.
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CHEAPTRICK has stated my personal objective well: "Fixed eye relief allows the shooter to maintain the same positioning and/or cheek weld irregardless of power setting."

KOSHKIN has touched on my reasoning from the opposite end of the spectrum "With most other shooting positions, my head is a little further from the scope, but I also tend to keep the scope at a lower magnification which gives me longer eye relief"

Where the norm is lower magnification in his case, mine is usually at the higher end which reduces eye relief, thats why I want the CER, heavy recoil and not having to adjust for Non constant.
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The FX III is the first fixed power scope I've used in a long time.  I like it a lot.  4.5" of eye relief.  Great low light performance.  Only weighs 11 oz.  I got the Heavy Duplex reticle.  I've used it on shots from 25-200 yds with no problem.
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Everything else being equal, I prefer scopes with constant eye relief.  That being said, it is not that big of a deal as long as you have enough eye relief (exception would be target rifles).  I have found that in hunting situations, I rarely take the same cheek weld twice unless I have plenty of time to shoot from a fixed position.

 

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