New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Conquest - 44 or 50?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

Conquest - 44 or 50?

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/18/2009 at 13:10
barrycuda View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: December/02/2009
Location: Virginia
Status: Offline
Points: 10
I have settled on a Zeiss Conquest 4.5 - 14. Is there noticeable difference between the 44mm and 50mm when it comes to light gathering ability?  I would like to go with the smaller objective but I also like to be able to see at last light. Also, which reticle would work the best for shots to 300 yds? Thanks, Barry
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/18/2009 at 13:49
Kickboxer View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Moderator

Joined: February/13/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 18340
Barry,
Scopes, contrary to popular press, do not "gather" light.  (I've always envisioned little guys like the "scrubbing bubbles" with brooms flitting around gathering up all the available light and shoveling it into a scope tube.).  They transmit avaialble light through the lenses.  Antireflective coatings on the lenses allow for better transmission, so the better the quality of the scope, the more light transmission you are likely to have.  The Conquest line is of high quality.  There would be SOME difference and some people may be able to see it, but I believe it works out in the end to be less than 1x in magnification level.  If you can see "well" at 10x with the 44mm objective, you would be able to see equally well at about 10.5x, maybe a little more, with a 50mm objective.  However, it would not mean the difference in being able to take a shot in legal shooting hours for most game.  If you are typically hunting small varmints in low light, the 50mm objective might have some small advantages.  
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/18/2009 at 18:10
Urimaginaryfrnd View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Resident Redneck

Joined: June/20/2005
Location: Iowa
Status: Offline
Points: 13873
Buy the 44 mm and save some money then dial the scope down to a lower power like 6x or 7x to brighten up the image when it gets dark.   The #4 reticle is often a favorite of many hunters.  If you go with a reticle like a Z600 or Z800 keep in mind that those only work at the maximum power or one specific power for hold over.  There is a lot of info on Z site.
I would probably buy the balistic reticle and just understand its limitations.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/18/2009 at 18:17
Urimaginaryfrnd View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Resident Redneck

Joined: June/20/2005
Location: Iowa
Status: Offline
Points: 13873
Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope Red Triangle Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - TR22R
  • Matte
  • Red Triangle
  • 30mm
$806.95 
Add Trijicon 2.5-10x56 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope to Cart 
Always turned on no batteries to go bad.  5.6mm exit eye pupil at 10x so bright at every power setting.  This is my pick for a low light optic, or if you need higher magnification.
 
Trijicon 5-20x50 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope Standard Crosshair w/ Amber Dot Trijicon 5-20x50 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - TR231
  • Matte
  • Standard Crosshair w/ Amber Dot
  • 30mm
  • Free Sun Shade w/ Purchase
$1,019.95 
Add Trijicon 5-20x50 Accu-Point 30mm Rifle Scope to Cart 
other models available.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/18/2009 at 20:04
sakomato View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: February/28/2008
Location: Houston
Status: Offline
Points: 1085
Hey Barry, good choice on the 4.5x14 Conquest, now as to the 44 or 50
 
Background:
 
I have a 4.5x14x44 RapidZ800 on a 6.5 rem mag custom
 
I have purchased and put on friend's rifles (all Conquests):
 
223 AR - 3X9X50
6.5 rem mag custom - 4.5x14x50 RZ800
280 rem Wtby - 3.5x10x50
30-06 Rem - 3.5x10x50 RZ600
30-06 Sako Finnlite - 4.5x14x50 RZ800
30-06 Sako Greywolf - 4.5x14x50 RZ800
300 win mag Browning - 4.5x14x50 RZ800
300 win mag Rem SPS - 4.5x14x44 RZ800
300 win mag Browning - 4.5x14x50 RZ800
300 RUM Sendero - 6.5x20x50 turrets
 
and I have looked through all and shot most of them.  On most of them I recommend the 44mm objective because it will mount lower on the rifle
 
however most choose the 50mm objective just because "it must be better, right?"  The 50mm objectives are substantially larger on the Conquests
 
3x9x50
 
6.5x20x50
 
unfortunately I don't have a pic of a 4.5x14x50.
 
The thing is that what makes the Conquest such a great scope is the resolution and clarity, not the light gathering ability.  They certainly gather a lot of light but are not in the same class as a Kahles 4x12x52 (I have 2) or the Zeiss Diavari 2.5x10x50 (I have one) but have better resolution and clarity than either of those (before anyone throws stones I look and shoot through all of them all the time and this is my opinion).  If you want to see bullet holes at 300 yards then the Conquests will do it.  If you want bright get a much more expensive scope with a large objective.
 
So IMO get the 4.5x14x44 Conquest RapidZ 800 and you will have a great scope that will mount low on your rifle and you will have a great hunting scope.
 
 
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/18/2009 at 21:17
Kickboxer View Drop Down
MODERATOR
MODERATOR
Avatar
Moderator

Joined: February/13/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 18340
I have to disagree.  The resolution and clarity on the Diavari is better than the Conquest.  I don't see a lot of difference in low light performance.  The Diavari has an edge, but not a huge one.  Everyone's eye is different..., I had never really cared for the Conquests until I got a "fixed" 4x.  I'll take a Diavari over a Conquest pretty much any day, though.  No aspersions cast upon Conquest, it is a VERY good scope, I just don't find it equal in any category to the Diavari.  MY eyes...
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "Conquest - 44 or 50?"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
Help,meopro 44 or meostar 50? oyster Rifle Scopes 4
Exit Pupil 44 vs 50 flashpoint Rifle Scopes 1
Swaro AV 4-12x50 vs Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x 44(50) AlaskaCub Rifle Scopes 18
Zeiss Conquest & 50 bmg 50 Freak Rifle Scopes 9 5/4/2005 1:42:27 PM
4.5-14 X 50 VXIII or Conquest wfolds Varmint Scopes 13 4/6/2006 4:44:59 PM
Kahles AH vrs Zeiss Conquest 3.5x10-50 abailey54 Binoculars 1 5/19/2006 1:25:26 PM
3 x 9 x 50 Conquest or 3.5 x 10 x 50 Conquest Mike52 Rifle Scopes 6
Will a 50 kill a SS? Phangs Rifle Scopes 14
Razor HD 11-33x 50 stilhuntin Spotting Scopes 8
Canon 18/50 qpalzm Binoculars 4


This page was generated in 0.172 seconds.