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This thread is to try and educate our members on the laws pertaining to Concealed Carry. If you are a member that has a CCW permit, please post either a link to your states laws, or IMO which would be better, posts your state laws in terms that the normal American can understand (without a lawyer, of course lol) so that WE can UNITE in OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. If you take the latter path, please post the link to your State Legal Statue for referencing.
 
My law would be that you have to alert a person whose home you are entering that you are carrying concealed, whether friend or stranger, and receive permission to enter.
 
Lets try to get as much information out about this as possible. Chris, SWFA admin, if this thread takes away from the nature of your forum, please let me know.
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The information you want is available on the nraila.org website.  Other websites with similar information can be found by searching "state concealed carry rules".  LegallyArmed.com is a good source for concealed carry handbooks and reciprocity rules for some states.
 
You need to seriously rethink your "My law!."   Concealed carry is exactly that.  It's your business and nobody else's.  
 
Every time you make this disclosure, you will be forcing  "friends and strangers" to make a decision involving YOUR right and YOUR ability to defend yourself (and them).   They will worry about this every time they invite you over (or don't!). 
 
You can be sure that they don't know nearly as much about the proper use of firearms or self-defense as you will.   Worse yet, if a "Situation" does occur you don't want them turning to you and asking you to use your gun to defend them!  This is a loud and clear announcement to the bad guys that YOU have a gun.  It will instantly focus their attention on you as a person to be shot or disarmed.  It will destroy your ability to pick the right time to make your move while keeping innocent people from harm.  Finally, do you really think all these people can or will keep your carry status a secret?
 
Wyatt Earp once described the frustrations of his job this way:
 
"He is like a sheep dog, feared by the flock and hated by the wolves." 
 
Known concealed carry holders are in exactly this same position.  In most instances, you are better  off keeping this information to yourself.  Even people who know you are licensed to carry, don't need to know when you are carrying.
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Concealed is concealed.  Secret.  No one will know that you have a gun unless you suddenly need to save their lives by using it against bad guys.  In which case, they would be very grateful. 
 
 
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Originally posted by LRSMike LRSMike wrote:

 
My law would be that you have to alert a person whose home you are entering that you are carrying concealed, whether friend or stranger, and receive permission to enter.


I am just curious as to why you feel a need to do this. It is your right to carry. I assume they have given you permission to enter their home. Does the gun need the extra permission.

And under no circumstances would I inform a stranger that I was carrying, unless it was a cop performing his duty with me involved.


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When I first received my concealed permit, I called the local P.D and asked them where I could find the local/state laws concerning concealed carry. The officer that was on the phone with me told me about that law. With that said, even though it's their God given right, I try to stay away from anti-gun individuals as being part of my friends. For some reason it has stuck with me for well over a year now. I personally haven't had to disclose that information, because of my military friend circle, everyone either has their concealed permit or has a personal protection firearm. I haven't been outside those group of friends since all my outside the army friends are back home in Texas. The ideal behind this thread wasn't to educate me as much as it would be to educate others that don't know as much, or are looking into getting into a concealed permit.
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Yeah i dont' think that cop told you the "law"  Unless its a prohibited area outlined in your states law or the federal law, carry without saying a word.  If you want them to know, do open carry otherwise keep your mouth shut and do exactly what the permit says "conceal" both verbally and physically. 
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Oh trust me, like it was stated above, a very vfery few people know I have a permit, but never know when I am carrying.
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About 0.1% chance of CC in this state.
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Originally posted by Average Joe Average Joe wrote:

About 0.1% chance of CC in this state.


Probably less here.
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I would never announce to anyone if I am carrying or not.  Defeats the purpose of a concealed carry permit to have to tell everyone you are carrying it.
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As I live in Arizona, I can carry open or concealed, anytime or anywhere. Unless prohibited(it must be posted). When carrying, announcing that you are, for the most part, will be more of hindrance than a help. In most cases, ignorance is bliss.
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If you think Washington DC got any sort of freedom when the SC ruled in favor of the 2nd amendment, then read this:

This is the process about getting your permit to carry in Washington DC.

Title 24
Chapter 23
2303 Application Requirements For Licenses For Concealed Weapons

2303.1 The residence requirements for a license to carry a concealed weapon shall be as follows:

(a) Applicant shall have a bona fide residence or place of business in the District of Columbia; or
(b) If the applicant does not have a bona fide residence or place of business in the District of Columbia, the applicant shall have a bona fide residence or place of business within the United states, and a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by the lawful authorities of that State or sub-division of the United states.
2303.2 No applicant shall be a person prohibited from possessing a pistol under D.C. Code 22-3201 through 22-32-17 (1981)

2303.6 The Chief of Police or his or her designated agent may require the applicant to submit to psychiatric testing by a psychiatrist, or psychologist selected by the Chief of Police at the expense of the Metropolitan Police Department.

2303.9 Applicant shall comply with the following requirements:

(a) Be over twenty-one (21) years of age;
(b) Be free from physical defects which would impair his or her safe use of the weapon, such as paralysis of hand or arm, poor vision, or lack of coordination due to age;
(c) Have reason to fear injury to his or her person or property or any other proper reason;
(d) Be properly trained and experienced in the use, functioning , and safe operation of the pistol; and
(e) Present a certification from a certified firing range stating that the applicant has satisfactorily completed a course of supervised training approved by the Chief of Police with the weapon from which the licensed is requested and is fully familiar with the use and servicing of the weapon.

2303.10 Applicant shall test fire his or her weapon at the standard police course under Metropolitan Police Department supervision to demonstrate his or her ability to shoot accurately and safely. An additional fee of twenty dollars ($20) shall be required for this service. However, this test and fee shall not be required for license renewals.

2303.11 For the purposes of satisfying the specifications of 2303.9(c), applicant shall allege serious threats of death or serious bodily harm to his or her person or theft or destruction of property in writing, under oath. The applicant shall also allege that the threats are of a nature that the legal possession of a pistol would provide adequate protection.

2303.12 The Chief of Police or his or her designated agent shall conduct and investigation into the allegations of the applicant to determine if the alleged threats are serious and factual and are of a nature that can be protected by carrying a pistol. Factors to be considered include the substance of the alleged threat, whether or not the applicant made a timely report to the police of such threats, and whether or not the applicant has made a sworn complaint to the police in the courts of the District of Columbia.

2303.13 The Chief of Police or his or her designated agent shall find that normal police protection, a commission as a special Police Officer pursuant, to DC Code 4-114 (1981), or at the discretion of the Chief of Police, special police protection is insufficient to protect the applicant from the alleged threat to his or her person or property.

2303.14 An example of “any other proper reason” used to satisfy the requirements of 2303.9(c) may include an application by a parent, son, daughter, sibling or other adult member of the immediate family of the person for the protection of the other person who is physically or mentally incapacitated to a point where he or she cannot act in defense of himself or herself, or his or her property.

Note: There are other requirements they can insist on to obtain a License. You need to read the who law by clicking on the Title/Chapter Link.

Title 24
Chapter 23
2304 Licenses For Concealed Weapons

2304.1 A license granted for concealed weapons shall be valid for one (1) month from the date of issuance.

2304.2 A license may be renewed at the end of one (1) month upon a written showing of continue d need for the license. Applicants who fail to apply for a renewed license before the expiration date, shall be required to pay the application fee for re-application.

2304 .3 Only one (1) weapon shall be carried pursuant to a license. The description and serial number of the weapon shall be part of the license. A new license shall be required for each different weapon carried.

2304.4 At the time of the initial interview with the Chief of Police or his or her designated agent, applicant shall bring the pistol which he or she will carry pursuant to the license and the holster or holsters in which the weapon will be carried.

2304.5 Applicant shall surrender possession of the weapon and holster to the Metropolitan Police Department for a check to determine whether the weapon was reported stolen, to verify that the weapon is safe, in good operating condition, and to obtain test fired ballistics specimens for future comparison if the weapon is fired and to ensure that the holster(s) meets minimum standards for safe carrying of the weapon.

2304.6 If the weapon is reported stolen, the weapon shall not be returned to the applicant until it is properly processed through the Metropolitan Police Department Property Division and a determination of the rightful owner is made.

2304.7 If the pistol is found not to be in good operating condition, the pistol shall be returned to the applicant. No license shall be issued for a pistol which is not in the rightful possession of the applicant or which is not in good operating condition.

2304.8 The pistol for which the license is applied shall be a five (5) or six (6) shot revolver of no greater than a thirty-eight (.38) calibre. Automatic or semi-automatic pistols shall not be approved.

2304.9 Ammunition for the weapon may be no greater in size than a one hundred fifty-eight (158) grain round nose lead bullet and have a velocity of no greater than eight hundred feet (800 ft.) per second. Each weapon shall be carried in a holster approved by the Chief of Police or his or her designated agent.

2304.10 Any intentional false statement made on an application can be grounds for criminal charges for making a false report to the police under this chapter.

2304.11 Any information contained on the application for a license to carry a pistol shall be available to any law enforcement agency for law enforcement purposes. Otherwise, the information contained on the application for a license to carry a pistol shall be considered confidential and shall not be released without the written permission of the applicant.

2304.12 An applicant shall identify all known medical and mental records and sign written release for the Chief of Police or his or her designated agent to obtain the records. These records shall be used only for determining eligibility to be licensed to carry a pistol and for no other purpose.

2304.13 This section shall apply to all applicants for a license to carry a pistol and all renewals of licenses currently possessed.

2304.14 Each licensee shall submit a report to the Chief of Police each time he or she fires
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That is probably why I haven't been to Washington, D.C. since 1969..........     

Edited by Ed Connelly - December/11/2010 at 10:23
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Absolutely corrupt and inept, i really have no reason/need to go there. 
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They've made it so incredibly difficult while still legally making it an option it's a slap in the face of the SC ruling in favor of the 2nd amendment. And yet DC has one of the highest violent crime rates in the US. Chicago is ranked very high in crime rate and is implementing similar measures in Chicago, because the mayor thinks "guns kill innocent people, and they have no place in our society". Again, why is your city so sh*tty then Mr mayor? Why is the violent crime rate so high? And you take away good citizens a right as passed down by the founders to defend life and property? 
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