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I've been reading these forums for a while and hoping someone can set me straight.
I'm in Australia and have chance to buy a new set of Vixen Apex Pros 8x42's, for $690 with a 5 year warranty.  There are not many reviews about this model but the few I have found have been very positive. 
Vixen have stopped making the AP's and now are pushing the New Forestas, which here are almost half the cost of the AP's
Looking at the Allbinos sight, the statistics are almost identical so this is my question
If the statistics are the same am I wasting money on the Apex Pros when i decide to buy?
The Apex's are presented as a premium bino to the New Foresta, and so,  is there more to these things than just statistics.
Although our dollar is on equal parity to the US dollar, the price we pay for many models are 20% to 80% higher. Some brands available there are unavailable here
Cheers
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Numbers in the advertizing do not tell the story as far as the image is concerned. Specifications listed only give the size of the lens and magnification. Glass quality and lens coatings are what control the quality of the view. Color rendition, sharpness, the size of the sweet spot. These are the factors that make a binocular easy to get behind.

  I have the Vortex Razor 8x42 that are fantastic for the price. I realize that doesn't mean much to you down under because of the tariff and import fees that you have to endure. I had the chance to compare my Razors  to the Swarovoski cl 10x30 in field conditions last September, while watching Elk in Colorado. The Swarovski beat the Vortex in Clarity but only marginally I was impressed at how thin the margin was. The Razors were easier to field for an extended time because of the larger sweet spot. Because of the size and differences, this is not a good or fair comparison. The Razors cost half of what the Swarovski cls run here in the US.  What I was trying to get across is don't pay a lot of attention to the hype in advertizing. Read the reviews by people that have used the binoculars. Specifications listed only give the size of the lens and magnification. Glass quality and lens coatings are what control the quality of the view. Color rendition, sharpness, the size of the sweet spot. These are the factors that make a binocular easy to get behind. Everyone arrange these in a different order as far as the importance to the individual.
  We have had several people join from down under in the past weeks. There should be several members with much more knowledge to give recommendations later today
Welcome to the OT.



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Tim:
 
Welcome to Optics Talk.  I have not tried any Vixen, but do have some experience
with many others.  I do follow the Allbinos site, and read most of their reviews and
rankings.  I agree with them for the most part.  I would trust their rankings as you
mention the newer one is as good, and is less in price. 
It may be Vixen had a struggle selling the older higher priced one, and decided to price things more in line with the market.
 
If you have more questions, offer a size you are looking for and a budget.  There are several
optics users here, who can offer good advice, and will help you get the best value.
I believe the AU dollar is close to par with the US $.
 
Jerry
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The Vixen Apex pros are not listed on the USA website for Vixen Optics.com.
The Vixen Artes ED binoculars are being sold here for around $1,000.00.
I believe that the cheaper prices reflect a change in the country of manufacture,
from made in Japan to made in China.

You could always look at the USA website and make comparisons between the
different models & prices, as well as specifications.

I own a Vixen Geoma 8x56 Porro prism binocular. 
They have a higher than usual price tag for a binocular that is not waterproof/fogproof.
The optics and optical coatings are top-of-the-line in a Vixen Porro prism binocular.


Stan

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Thankyou for the replies.

Taken on board the advice to my initial question which will help me with my purchasing decision.

Allbinos,amongst others, all seem to rate the vipers highly.
Can be bought here from $780 or delivered from the U.S. for around $640

The Vixens Apex Pros on offer to me are Japanese manufactured so its tempting.

Think its between these two. 

Cheers



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