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I have a Savage 110 FCP-HS .338 LM on the way and I'm comparing some kind of entry-level glass that will give me decent elevation adjustment.  The rifle will never see anything but range toy duty, and my local rifle club only has a 200 yd range at that, so I'd have to go to another range 25 miles away to get a 1000 yd shot.  

I've looked at the SWFA SS 20x42 Tactical Riflescope (Stock # - SS20X42MQ) and the Sightron 20x42 SIII (SIII20X42MMD).   However, I need some help with the total elevations specs for both products.

The SWFA offering says only "Mils" as the total elevation adjustment specification, with no accompanying number.  Is there a published value for this scope that's just missing from the specs?

The Sightron says only "150" and lists "in."  OK, if that's 150 inches - seems like a lot - then at what range? 100 yds, so 150 MOA approximately?  Or what?

Sorry if I'm being a newbie here - I've been reading and digesting everything I can find on optics lately, but like with a lot of things, the more I know, the more confused I get :p


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The SS line has at least 120 MOA or 35 mils.  Most of them will have more than that.  The 10x I had had 140 something MOA.  My 10x HD had 37 mils IIRC.  Either one will have way way more than you will ever need for a 1000 yard shot with a .338. 

If it were me I would pick the 16x over the 20x.  The image will be much brighter as you will have a little more exit pupil. 

If you get a SS make sure to get one of the new ones that has mil adjustments. 

It is not 150 inches, it is 150 MOA.  It does not matter at what range it is, it is still 150 MOA at 100 yards or 1000 yards.  If you are going to learn to shoot long range, it is best to give up thinking in inches.  You need to start thinking in the angular measurement of MOA or Mils depending upon what scope you choose. 

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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

It is not 150 inches, it is 150 MOA.  It does not matter at what range it is, it is still 150 MOA at 100 yards or 1000 yards.  If you are going to learn to shoot long range, it is best to give up thinking in inches.  You need to start thinking in the angular measurement of MOA or Mils depending upon what scope you choose. 
Thanks for the info and the welcome!

It's not so much that I'm thinking in inches, but that's what the specs said on the SWFA product page... Sightron themselves are even less helpful, not specifying any units at all Whacko lol.

I appreciate the recommendation for a lower power also... my eyes are not that good these days (I'm in my early 50's) and while magnifcation helps, more LIGHT seems to help more than anything.  So your point about the exit pupil specs is well taken.
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I too recommend the 16 over the 20.  I just put a new 16X on a gun this past weekend.  Love it.  I have an older model in mil dot/ moa but his new milquad and mil is awesome and the glass seems a bit better as well..... You will be able to learn much easier with a reticle that matches your turrent/adjustments.  so a mil based reticle with mil based adjustments will lead to much faster and understandable use.
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The Sightron are 1/4 MOA adjustments.  The SS line has both 1/4 MOA and 1/10 Mil.  I would pick the SS 16x with 1/10 mil adjustments with the milquad.  I don't see the point in spending twice as much for the Sightron.  It will not give you anything over the SS.

But either brand has more than enough adjustment for your stated needs.  For a 1000 yard shot with the 300 grain SMK you will need less than 7 mils of adjustment.   
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SS 16X milquad would be my choice and I will have one myself soon. I was thinking the 20X but unless the light is good it is just too dark for my tastes. Also here is an article about both the SS and the Sightron in 10x by a very well respected member here on OT.

http://opticsthoughts.com/index.php/rifle-scopes/4-rifle-scope-reviews/68-10x42-riflescopes
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Woohoo just got a tracking number... my .338 will be here Thursday.  I've got to make an optics decision soon!
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