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    Posted: November/19/2007 at 21:35

I can purchase a Sightron SII, Big Sky, 4-16X42 for right at $500.   I can purchase a Kahles KX 4-12X50 for around $800.   It's a fairly safe bet that the KX is the better of the two.   In what specific ways would that be, and how much better is the KX.   I've peered through a Big Sky and it's a pretty nice piece of glass.  I've not done that with a KX.   Has anyone got some practical comparision experience. 

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The Sightron is a good scope and I have shot the Kahles many times and they are top of the line glass.

Why not dump the Sightron and buy the Elite 4200  4x16x40 for about $400.The glass is great and I really cant see a $400 difference in the 4200 and the Kahles.The Sightrons are good glass,but the 4200 is better and cheaper.

 

                                                 

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And of course, the Big Squeeze agrees that the 4x16 4200 is the best choice.....Optically, it is slightly better than the Sightron, is less money and also offers the Rainguard which BTW,,,REALLY does work!!........While a great scope, the Kahles KX at $800, does not offer optics twice as good as the Elite 4200 and IMO, not worth twice the price!!.....If you look through both, side by side, outside the store and can justify the extra 400 bucks, then buy the Kahles!!! The 4200 does not give up much at all to the Kahles!!   
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Kahles KX worth the extra money no doubt.  4200 is good for the money also but if you can afford it get the Kahles.

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JackG -

 

To specifically answer your question, the Kahles will give you better resolution and lowlight performance.  I'm talking about the last 15-30 minutes after sunset (where it's legal to shoot where I hunt)...

 

Also, the Kahles has an oversized ocular lens which does make the target appear a bit larger at any magnification, at least to my 20/12 eyes.

 

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I agree with both Robert and ND. If the Kahles is in your budget, it is an outstanding scope both optically and mechanically.

 

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Originally posted by jackG jackG wrote:

I can purchase a Sightron SII, Big Sky, 4-16X42 for right at $500.   I can purchase a Kahles KX 4-12X50 for around $800.   It's a fairly safe bet that the KX is the better of the two.   In what specific ways would that be, and how much better is the KX.   I've peered through a Big Sky and it's a pretty nice piece of glass.  I've not done that with a KX.   Has anyone got some practical comparision experience. 

You really need to look through the Kahles before making a decision.  If you have the money and can buy the Kahles, you really do need to do yourself a favor and make the decision by comparing the scopes head to head.  You may come away being completely at awe with the Kahles as compared to the Sightron and find it worth the difference, or you may find that there is minimal difference and you would rather spend the difference elsewhere.  My personal opinion is that the Elites and the Sightrons are on par with one another, depending on which scope you buy.  Rainguard, take it or leave it.  I hate hunting in the rain.

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Originally posted by ND2000 ND2000 wrote:

JackG -

 

To specifically answer your question, the Kahles will give you better resolution and lowlight performance.  I'm talking about the last 15-30 minutes after sunset (where it's legal to shoot where I hunt)...

 

Also, the Kahles has an oversized ocular lens which does make the target appear a bit larger at any magnification, at least to my 20/12 eyes.

 

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The Kahles has way better resolution night or day. It does prevail sufficently at dusk and dawn.  Partially due to the oversized objective and the lower power than the Sightron but, mostly from the exceptional quality of glass Kahles has to offer. The sight picture is also a very easy and quick acquisition with the Kahles.  The Sightron has 1/8 MOA which is more precise than the 1/4 inch MOA of the Kahles but, 1/8 MOA also takes away a lot of your adjustment range. I think everyone here would agree that 1/4 Inch MOA is better unless you are shooting tactical 50 yds and under.The Kahles also has 4 and a half more feet in its field of view at 100yds. I personally have used both and the AO (Adjustable Objective) on the Sightron is rather difficult to turn.  There are most of the significant differences now on to my opinion. If you can afford it Kahles all the way. If that is out of you range I would have to go with the Bushnell Elite 4200 or the New Nikon Monarch.



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