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Gurus, I need some help!

I am looking for a pair of pocket bins. I have a budget of about $175 without much wiggle room. I need them to be water proof and fairly rugged (single hinge preferred). These will be used on multi-day hikes for watching birds and wildlife.

I am leaning toward something in 8X (I would prefer 6 or 7X with the smaller objective lenses but there aren't a lot of options). I have also been looking mostly at reverse porro prism designs because I know porro prisms probably offer the best bang for the buck. I am open to roof prisms if you guys recommend them.

The Bushnell Legend 8x26 look decent and so do the Nikon ProStaff 8x25 ATB. What about something like the Vortex Vanquish? Anything else I should be looking at?

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Would something like the Kowa BD25 8X25 be worth spending a bit more on?
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Compacts are not an easy thing to get right.  Cheap compacts almost never are much good.  You are on the right track with reverse porros.  The Vortex Vanquish , or the Bushnell Legend 8x26 should come close to what you want.  The best compact reverse porro is the Bushnell compact elite 7x26.  They are about $240.  These are top notch optics.  However reverse porro in the compact guise are not really pocket size, unless you are talking big pockets.  Standard shirt pockets are out.  Kowa makes good stuff.  I've never seen a Kowa 8x25, but it would very likely be worth the extra money.

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Thanks Klamath!

I shouldn't have mentioned pockets. I am really thinking more of a compact that won't take up any more space in a pack than they need to and I think the reverse porro form factor would be fine for that application. I willing to have a little more size and weight to go with the reverse porros since I don't think there are any compact roof prism bins in my price range that can keep up with decent porro prism bins.

I wish I could swing the Compact Elites. Maybe I should look for a decent used set of B&L 7x26 or older Bushnell Custom Compact 7x26. Even the used ones seem to cost more than I can spend this time.

The Kowas can be picked up at SWFA for $180ish in the camo finish but I am having trouble finding anyone who has done a serious review of them. I would hate to drop $180, only to find out that they aren't really much better than a $80 set of reverse porros!

The hunt continues! Thanks again Klamath.
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What about the Minox BV 8X25 BR? http://swfa.com/Minox-BV-8x25-BR-Binocular-P12017.aspx
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I have been coming across some favorable reviews of the Bushnell Excursion 8x28. They are compact roof prisms but they do have phase correction which I don't usually see on the inexpensive compacts. I also like they have 28mm objectives.

Anyone try them yet?
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Originally posted by matthewdanger matthewdanger wrote:


I wish I could swing the Compact Elites. Maybe I should look for a decent used set of B&L 7x26 or older Bushnell Custom Compact 7x26. Even the used ones seem to cost more than I can spend this time.


The 7x26 Bushnell Custom compacts are very nice but, are not waterproof - which you mentioned as a requirement. 

You might look around for an 8x28  Pentax DCF MP.  These were really very nice and, IMO, a step up from the Bushnell Excursions. I'm not sure if they are still produced but, if you can find one, they are worth a look.
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I have the Nikon Prostaff 8x25 and it's a real nice binocular. Waterproof, compact, lightweight. 
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some other binoculars are also very great
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Originally posted by joanna joanna wrote:

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EXCELLENT CATCH!!!
SHE IS ALSO OPERATING ON OTHER BINOCULAR FORUMS ALONG WITH ANOTHER PERSON BY THE NAME OF belled.


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Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

Originally posted by joanna joanna wrote:

(Removed spam advertising link.  User suspended for 5 posts in violation of forum rule #3 and for being a spammer.)

EXCELLENT CATCH!!!
SHE IS ALSO OPERATING ON OTHER BINOCULAR FORUMS ALONG WITH ANOTHER PERSON BY THE NAME OF belled.
 
Just axed user name "bellac" for hawking the same Chinese optics brand that joanna was advertising with similar email address and IP coming from China.  Likely either the same person or associated with the same person.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

Originally posted by joanna joanna wrote:

(Removed spam advertising link.  User suspended for 5 posts in violation of forum rule #3 and for being a spammer.)

EXCELLENT CATCH!!!
SHE IS ALSO OPERATING ON OTHER BINOCULAR FORUMS ALONG WITH ANOTHER PERSON BY THE NAME OF belled.
 
Just axed user name "bellac" for hawking the same Chinese optics brand that joanna was advertising with similar email address and IP coming from China.  Likely either the same person or associated with the same person.
 
 
She gives her name, LiZhuo, and her location, Zhejiang, in her profile. OOOPS!! Big Grin
 
She and her partner(s) have been BUSTED & AXED (BLOCKED) at two other astronomy optics forums as well. Police 
 


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Originally posted by JasonB

some other binoculars are also very great
 
 
What do you recommend Jason
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