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I just picked up a pair of minox binocs (6.5x32) which are pretty nice. Problem is that they weigh in at about 1 1/2 pounds. I was looking at the 8x25 and 10x25 to reduce weight. I do not spend a lot of time looking through them as I hunt almost exclusively in timber and cover with sight ranges of usually under 100 yards. In addition, viewing during the last few mintues of light is probably not crucial as I walk a lot while hunting and do little sitting. I like the minox's except for the weight. I was thinking about the sightron 8x25 S2 binocs as a possible replacement. I have a sightron scope and it seems to be very nice and the optics are very clear. Please "weigh in" with an opinion, so to speak.
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I doubt if my opinion will be much help, and I'm sure that others with more experience will disagree with me, but here goes: 

 

I encourage you to seek out models with features you're looking for, aside from best optical quality, and try them out.  I think that there are a lot of models that have very satisfactory optical performance.  I am guessing that water- and fog-resistance would be very significant features, aside from lightness in weight.  Most compacts (below 25mm objective diameter) are very lightweight.  Reverse porro prism models (I think Pentax has some waterproof models) could be very satisfactory, and at relatively low cost, too. 

 

Why am I saying this?  I've had a pair of Nikon Travelite II's (8x23) reverse porros for quite some time now.  They are plastic-bodied, cheap, an creak under my grip.  However, they have a very excellent view, in terms of resolution and contrast.  At 23mm, brightness is not great, and I think that's typical of that objective size.  I finally came across and bought a Nikon Diplomat 8x23, which has been discontinued for quite some time.  It was said to be the first binocular advertised as having aspherical lens.  It was a reverse porro design.  When Better View Desired was active years ago, the Diplomat was ranked as the best compact binocular in optical performance.  This was when the high-end, phase-correction-coated roof prism compacts (Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski, etc.) were available, too.  Well, now that I have it and used it; I'd say that its superiority over the Travelite is slight and not always noticeable.  By inference, then, the margin that the high-end roofs have is, in my opinion, slight, also.  I've looked through some of those roof models, and my opinion hasn't changed.  Please don't take me as being negative on the high-end models.  I just want to say that I think the cheaper, reverse porros could do very well for you. 

 

Am I right in guessing that the Sightron 8x25 is a reverse porro prism model? 

 

Guys, please don't attack me!  The roofs have their place, too.

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I forgot to mention: 

 

The recently discontinued Nikon Mountaineer II 8x25 is very rugged (metal chassis) and waterproof.  I think it weighs about a pound, though.  If this isn't too much weight, I would suggest this model.  I think it could still be found on the Internet.  It's usually higher priced, around $160, but I believe it is designed much more ruggedly that most others.

 

SWFA's site very likely has other suitable models. 

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