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Our hearts go out to all family and friends of the victims.





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Nope, sure didn't.  Sad very sad.  Prayers go out to all affected
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Very tragic!
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Horrible to see.
The sad thing is in the list of the victims - 6year old - a 3month old. It was at a midnight showing and being an extremely violent movie - the gun control nuts want to talk about gun control. I ask where are the parents?

Colorado has seen its fair share of these type of things more gun control laws will never help end these shootings. The culture of violence and hate is being started by x-box, PS and super violent movies with kids at an very early age.

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Reports say that a young man appeared to answer a cell phone call and then while apparently talking, exited through an emergency exit door a few minutes before the shooter entered through the same door. It was probably the shooter, who rigged/defeated the door mechanism which prevented entry from outside.
He also was wearing a "vest", so had apparently planned on withstanding an attack from an off- duty armed policeman or a concealed- carry permit holder.

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Really curious as to what motivated this guy.
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My daughter and her husband went to a midnight showing of that movie last night....but, it was in Fort Worth, thank God! 
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Really curious as to what motivated this guy.

 
It will probably come from "he was not loved by his parents enough" or " he was spanked when he was 6" or " he failed at a relation ship with a girl' or " he was bullied" or " he couldn't cop with the real world after college. it will always come down to "it was not his fault" by the media. I truly am sad about what HE did and the lose off ALL the people and what there families are going thru today. It bothers me to the core.

I just hate to see how big of a political agenda it will or has become in the up and coming races.

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Really curious as to what motivated this guy.

 
It will probably come from "he was not loved by his parents enough" or " he was spanked when he was 6" or " he failed at a relation ship with a girl' or " he was bullied" or " he couldn't cop with the real world after college. it will always come down to "it was not his fault" by the media. I truly am sad about what HE did and the lose off ALL the people and what there families are going thru today. It bothers me to the core.

I just hate to see how big of a political agenda it will or has become in the up and coming races.

He was a PHD candidate. He'd spent most/all of his young adult life listening to liberal profs. fill his head with liberal BS.
All of the recent killers, from Columbine until now were students. It would be just as valid ( and equally stupid) to say that "being a student" is just as much to blame as possession of a firearm.

On the other hand, just plain old calling him bat- farqing nuts would suffice.
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Oh No!!  A Good Liberal [ Registered Democrat!! ] led astray by the Right Wing racist blogs on the Internet and Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart!!  
 
 
 
 
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Its the AR rifle thats gotten the most attention.
 
I LOVE guns and hunting. But its just too easy for any lunatic to get his or her hands on ARs.
 
I guess I'm a purist when it comes to rifles. I just don't see the need for anything other than a bolt action, 4 round clip semi auto, single shot rifle, or double rifle. I've never been a fan of them.
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Really curious as to what motivated this guy.

 
It will probably come from "he was not loved by his parents enough" or " he was spanked when he was 6" or " he failed at a relation ship with a girl' or " he was bullied" or " he couldn't cop with the real world after college. it will always come down to "it was not his fault" by the media. I truly am sad about what HE did and the lose off ALL the people and what there families are going thru today. It bothers me to the core.

I just hate to see how big of a political agenda it will or has become in the up and coming races.

 
This guy may truly be disturbed. He dyed his hair the color of the Joker and told the police he was the Joker when they asked him who he was.
 
And like the Joker in The Dark Knight he's requested a phone call to his laywer and not cooperating.
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I feel sorry for him. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
" Vaya con Díos!! "
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Really curious as to what motivated this guy.

 
It will probably come from "he was not loved by his parents enough" or " he was spanked when he was 6" or " he failed at a relation ship with a girl' or " he was bullied" or " he couldn't cop with the real world after college. it will always come down to "it was not his fault" by the media. I truly am sad about what HE did and the lose off ALL the people and what there families are going thru today. It bothers me to the core.

I just hate to see how big of a political agenda it will or has become in the up and coming races.

 
This guy may truly be disturbed. He dyed his hair the color of the Joker and told the police he was the Joker when they asked him who he was.
 
And like the Joker in The Dark Knight he's requested a phone call to his laywer and not cooperating.
 
He also boobie traped the place he lived to kill more people when they started digging around for who he was.
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Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:



Its the AR rifle thats gotten the most attention.
 
I LOVE guns and hunting. But its just too easy for any lunatic to get his or her hands on ARs.
 
I guess I'm a purist when it comes to rifles. I just don't see the need for anything other than a bolt action, 4 round clip semi auto, single shot rifle, or double rifle. I've never been a fan of them.


Slippery slope.
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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:



Its the AR rifle thats gotten the most attention.
 
I LOVE guns and hunting. But its just too easy for any lunatic to get his or her hands on ARs.
 
I guess I'm a purist when it comes to rifles. I just don't see the need for anything other than a bolt action, 4 round clip semi auto, single shot rifle, or double rifle. I've never been a fan of them.


Slippery slope.
I agree with Rustic. The second Amendment aint about duck hunting. What's more important, the rights of a few mentally unbalanced people or the rights of all citizens?
 
Just because you don't care for semiautomatics, doesn't mean I don't.
I remember when JFK was assasinated, there was a call to ban all rifles with scopes. You can't compromise and expect to keep something.
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Ther is no way anyone could make any rhyme or reason out of this. This is pure EVIL at work. This cat was no doubt possessed by the devil. The media keeps trying to make since out of nothing asking Why Why Why??? They are playing tennis with the curb. He will pay the price when he meets his maker. 

God Bless the families 
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:



Its the AR rifle thats gotten the most attention.
 
I LOVE guns and hunting. But its just too easy for any lunatic to get his or her hands on ARs.
 
I guess I'm a purist when it comes to rifles. I just don't see the need for anything other than a bolt action, 4 round clip semi auto, single shot rifle, or double rifle. I've never been a fan of them.


Slippery slope.
I agree with Rustic. The second Amendment aint about duck hunting. What's more important, the rights of a few mentally unbalanced people or the rights of all citizens?
 
Just because you don't care for semiautomatics, doesn't mean I don't.
I remember when JFK was assasinated, there was a call to ban all rifles with scopes. You can't compromise and expect to keep something.
 
I disagree about the 2nd amendment. I believe they meant for citizens to have the right to defend themselves from each other and government, plus defend personal property and to use a gun for survival ala hunting back in those days especially. Free as in free to take care of ones basic needs of survival ect ect.....
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a" free State", the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
 
Back to my point, I don't have a problem with semi autos. I have a few Remington 7400s and looking at maybe buying a Benelli R1. Those guns aren't the problem. We've already gone down the slope with these assault rifles IMO and they make hunters and sportsman look bad! They aren't for home or car defense and I don't know a single person who hunts with an AR with a large clip of ammunition. Nobody is going to slaughter dozens of people and injure 60 with a 5 shot clip Remington 7400 deer rifle. From what I'm reading he bought an 870 pump 2 glock 40s and an AR 223 with a drum clip. All I've heard tonight was the media going after the AR not the 870. In a few of the school shootings in Arkansas deer rifles were used but no fuss was made of it. They were just described messed up kids with tragic home lives. I've listened to a ton of TV tonight. Most sensible people agree "even the MSNBC crowd" hunting rifles and shot guns are NOT the problem. Americans have the right to own guns but we need to have a common sense approach.


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"A man who is willing to trade freedom for security, deserves neither."
 Guns are not at fault here. They are but tools in the hands of anybody. None of the tools did any harm by themselves. It was the hands of a man that did the killing in Colorado last night... Would you have preferred that he beat them to death with a hammer? Or maybe stood by the only door with a chainsaw? Tools are tools. They are not evil. They don't do harm or good...They are dead...
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Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:



Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:



Its the AR rifle thats gotten the most attention.
 

I LOVE guns and hunting. But its just too easy for any lunatic to get his or her hands on ARs.

 

I guess I'm a purist when it comes to rifles. I just don't see the need for anything other than a bolt action, 4 round clip semi auto, single shot rifle, or double rifle. I've never been a fan of them.


Slippery slope.

I agree with Rustic. The second Amendment aint about duck hunting. What's more important, the rights of a few mentally unbalanced people or the rights of all citizens?

 

Just because you don't care for semiautomatics, doesn't mean I don't.

I remember when JFK was assasinated, there was a call to ban all rifles with scopes. You can't compromise and expect to keep something.

 
I disagree about the 2nd amendment. I believe they meant for citizens to have the right to defend themselves from each other and government, plus defend personal property and to use a gun for survival ala hunting back in those days especially. Free as in free to take care of ones basic needs of survival ect ect.....
 
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a" free State", the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be
 
Back to my point, I don't have a problem with semi autos. I have a few Remington 7400s and looking at maybe buying a Benelli R1. Those guns aren't the problem. We've already gone down the slope with these assault rifles IMO and they make hunters and sportsman look bad! They aren't for home or car defense and I don't know a single person who hunts with an AR with a large clip of ammunition. Nobody is going to slaughter dozens of people and injure 60 with a 5 shot clip Remington 7400 deer rifle. In a few of the school shootings in Arkansas deer rifles were used but no fuss was made of it. They were just described messed up kids with tragic home lives. I've listened to a ton of TV tonight. Most sensible people agree "even the MSNBC crowd" hunting rifles are NOT the problem. Americans have the right to own guns but we need to have a common sense approach. Its just like thousands of Americans own private jets & are wealthy enough to buy F16s. The government isn't going to sell a civilianized f16 to the public for fear of it being used as a weapon. John Travolta is an avid pilot and has been trying to buy one for years without any advanced radar or anything. Its not going to happen.
 
It has to be some way to prevent these kind of tragedies.



I disagree 100%.
Lets enforce the current laws on the the books not make up new useless ones. Criminal control not unreasonable gun control adding new laws is like a bandaid on a broken arm it doesn't work... just makes things worse case in point Illinois(Chicago) super strict gun laws = high crime rates.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

"A man who is willing to trade freedom for security, deserves neither."
 Guns are not at fault here. They are but tools in the hands of anybody. None of the tools did any harm by themselves. It was the hands of a man that did the killing in Colorado last night... Would you have preferred that he beat them to death with a hammer? Or maybe stood by the only door with a chainsaw? Tools are tools. They are not evil. They don't do harm or good...They are dead...
 
You're right, guns are but tools. The man pulling the trigger is evil. But why give evil people such awesome unnecessary tools to embolden themselves to threaten the innocent public? He woudln't have caused the damage and loss of life he did with a hammer, chainsaw or even a 50 cal.
 
When the Giffords lady was shot, nobody is screaming for all 9mms to be banned. It was the large clip that emboldened her shooter.
 
Cars aren't evil but we do have speed limits and drinking laws for public safety for our fellow citizens. Like I said I believe in gun ownership and I have several weapons but when you're talking ARs with 100 round clips and the like. That kind of gun ownership only needs to be in the hands of the upmost responsible American citizen. If not, we are going to have repeated unnecessary loss of innocent life like this over and over.
 
 
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I beg to differ on the size of caliber.
 The congruent theme between this shooting and the Con. Gifford shooting, is the fact that both were relatively sure there were no guns against them. At this shooting it was the policy of the theater that no weapons were allowed, even for Concealed Carry permit holders. At the Congress Womans speech, it was the fact that she is a DEM, and had run for office on a anti-gun stance. After all, it is a lot easier to be a whacko, if nobody else has the ability to pull a gun and shoot back.
 The weapon type has nothing to do with this horrific event. And to blame a collection of aluminum and steel for the horrific madness of a man...That's almost criminal in itself!
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Yeah, the anti-gun people didnt waste any time. Blaming the firearms is like blaming the knife for a knife murderer, the car for DUI fatalities, the crowbar in a murder, and so on. These all have one thing in common.....the PERSON (Loco) that decides not to be HUMAN. Prayers go out to the affected families.   
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Originally posted by Obi Wan Kenobi Obi Wan Kenobi wrote:

Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

"A man who is willing to trade freedom for security, deserves neither."
 Guns are not at fault here. They are but tools in the hands of anybody. None of the tools did any harm by themselves. It was the hands of a man that did the killing in Colorado last night... Would you have preferred that he beat them to death with a hammer? Or maybe stood by the only door with a chainsaw? Tools are tools. They are not evil. They don't do harm or good...They are dead...
 
You're right, guns are but tools. The man pulling the trigger is evil. But why give evil people such awesome unnecessary tools to embolden themselves to threaten the innocent public? He woudln't have caused the damage and loss of life he did with a hammer, chainsaw or even a 50 cal.
 
When the Giffords lady was shot, nobody is screaming for all 9mms to be banned. It was the large clip that emboldened her shooter.
 
Cars aren't evil but we do have speed limits and drinking laws for public safety for our fellow citizens. Like I said I believe in gun ownership and I have several weapons but when you're talking ARs with 100 round clips and the like. That kind of gun ownership only needs to be in the hands of the upmost responsible American citizen. If not, we are going to have repeated unnecessary loss of innocent life like this over and over.
 
 
 
I may be wrong but it appears you are deliberately NOT looking at the core issue. The right for the common reasonable responsible citizen to own a firearm of their choosing. No matter its configuration. A lunitic set on doing harm is gonna arm themselves with what ever means they choose. You seem to be of a mind that banning a specific arm from the general public will effectivly prevent a killer from obtaining his weapon of choice. Look at cities where handguns are banned. Who has handguns? Lawenforcement and criminals. The general public is easy prey for rapist and theives. You need to consider just how vast the options of distruction are. That are available to anyone who chooses to do harm. I have little pratical use for an AR but I'm proficient with one and I do enjoy shooting one. Thats all the reasoning a responsible citizen needs to justify owning one. To efectivly accomplish what you are proposing would require the distruction and hault of all production of all AR style rifles. But wait a minute, what about 22 rifles that have tube mags? Oh and simi-auto shotguns. Do you have any idea how deadly they are. You my friend (and I say these things with all respect to you as a patriot) are on that tricly slippery slope that has us on this topic to begin with. Loosing focus of the core issue is just what the anti's hope we will do. Because as long as we are divided they can be more effective. Your arguement is valid on the surface and the anti's exploit it to the extreme. But the bottom line is, Taking certain arms out of the hands of the general public in no way prevents the lunitic from having it...............so let the citizen be armed as they choose and defend themselves, enforce the death penality to the fullest and both will discourage "some" of this behavior.
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more acts of random violence will occur
midnight movies should be banned
increase in media coverage of who gets, and how much policing function of basic rights etc. etc. on and on

what I want to know is if the people got a refund or a rain-check
and what kind bullets the guy was using.
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