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Probably some of the military guys may have some tips. If your shooting pistols in -5 temps and -30 wind chill is there any problems that may be encountered in the weapons. (Malfunctions not usually encountered at normal temps.) Sig 239 and or Glock 22c .  Whacko
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Never had that extreme range in temps for range times. I suspect that should the weather be sunny or at the least dry, the most you can expect is some numbness from recoil. Kinda like trying to twist a wrench in cold weather. I have hunted in freezing rain, and sleet with a windchill of zero to minus 4, and there were no ill affects on the rifle. I did have a balloon on the end of the barrel though, wouldn't want ice in there, and then pull the trigger. I can tell you that whenm the temps are freezing and below, I always carry my sidearms under my overcoat, or my duster, more for keeping them ice free than anything else. 
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I was wondering if a lighter lube or maybe shooting more or less dry might free the slide more. I would think there would be more drag. Maybe the metal may be a little more brittle.
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Use a normal gun oil. don't use grease if that makes you suspect. Confidence that your equipment will perform is one of the most important things. Gun metal is specially treated (tempered) the temperature would need to be more extreme than that to have any serious affect. Keep your magazines in your pocket and warm and dry until you are ready. Not that the warmth is that important, but dry will certainly be in that temperature. Especially using a semi auto.
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They did a test a few years ago on sig 226 and frozed them in 1 cubic foot blocks of ice for days and then broke them out and shot with no malfunctions.  I don't think you will see any adverse effect on the handgun in the cold, only your ability to hold with gloves and the way it will feel with you musles being so cold as already mentioned.  They are built to run in all temps. if you can run'em

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We had a lot of fun at the training session today. There were 23 shooters. 20 were bail bond persons that the class was designed around. My wife and I were lucky to be invited to join in the class by the sponsor. The stress of the class was increased by the 4 low to 16 high temp in the afternoon along with 6" of left over snow. Some questions about low temp shooting may have received answers. Some of the shooters had several rounds not fire after having solid hits on the primers. All were using Winchester ammunition. 2 were shooting 9mm one was shooting a .45 and one lady was shooting a .380. The instructor felt that the 4-16 deg temp range of the day may well have been the problem. Another shooter was shooting a Taurus PT 24/7 .45 and had a DNF because of feeding problems. This was a newer weapon with only a few rounds before today. It appeared to be magazine related to me. It would not feed more than 3 rounds before jamming or failing to feed. Both of the Sig's my wife and I had preformed flawless. The training was prepared by Iron Sight Inc.  Tactical training and Iron Sight Riflescope repair located in Tulsa, OK.
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I don't think the temp contributed to the DNFs of the primers pops.  Maybe bad ammo.  I may be wrong.
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The primers had good hits. We were able to change ammunition brand on the 9mm and the .45 with no more incidents of misfires with these particular firearms. None of the shots were squibs. This makes me think that the primer did not ignite. Whether it was the type primer charge component, or the hardness of the primer and the low temp increasing the hardness of the priming cap. From theirs experience I will not be using he low end Winchester handgun ammo in very low temps. It has always worked fine for me when I use it in normal temps. My wife and I were using PMC and fired 400 rounds between us without problems. No matter where the problem starts SVT is correct it is bad ammo. when it does not go bang.
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The military uses Breakfree CLP as a lube.
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