New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - cleaning cases?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

cleaning cases?

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 14:22
ckk1106 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: December/14/2007
Location: Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 1435
Does this sound plausible?  It would save me some money, not having to buy a tumbler.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/clean_cases.htm
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 14:24
Bigdaddy0381 View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar
Georgia peach

Joined: February/27/2007
Location: Georgia
Status: Offline
Points: 12822

I'm thinking it would dent the necks probably enuff to where they would need to be resized and then you would need to reoil them and back to the drawing boards.

 

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 14:25
supertool73 View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Master
Optics Jedi Master
Avatar
Superstool

Joined: January/03/2008
Location: Utah
Status: Offline
Points: 9531
Until you pillow case comes open and you fill your dryer with corn cob media.  It might not be cheaper then.  Bandito
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 16:28
BeltFed View Drop Down
Optics God
Optics God
Avatar

Joined: February/12/2008
Location: Ky
Status: Offline
Points: 16086

Case tumblers are cheaper than divorcesButt%20Kick.

Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 16:32
ckk1106 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: December/14/2007
Location: Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 1435
Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Case tumblers are cheaper than divorcesButt%20Kick.


Good point. 
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 16:39
MontanaYeti View Drop Down
Optics GrassHopper
Optics GrassHopper


Joined: March/28/2008
Status: Offline
Points: 2
Umm,

I don't know what kind of time you have to deal with that, but it certainly doesn't interest me. I would rather figure out a way to pay for the tumbler than deal with that crap. Plus, your brass will probably be beat to sh*t when it is done (as another individual already stated).
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 20:37
3_tens View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Knight
Optics Jedi Knight
Avatar

Joined: January/08/2007
Location: Oklahoma
Status: Offline
Points: 7180
If they are not rinsed properly I would hate to see the corrosion left by the toilet  bowl cleaner. Some brands are some strong stuff. This could lead to sever case failure if the shells were not used in a timely manner.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 23:06
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
 
 I think it could work okay for occasional use if you did it carefully and started experimenting in small batches before dumping 50 pounds of brass into your dryer.
 As 3-tens suggested, I think I would skip the toilet bowl cleaner solution completely.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 23:07
sakomato View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: February/28/2008
Location: Houston
Status: Offline
Points: 1085

Supposedly you are not supposed to use anything with ammonia in it.  Ammonia reacts with the brass and weakens it.  I would be surprised if it ever got severe enough to cause a problem but why take the chance.  That's the reason Brasso is not recommended.

I found another method for cleaning cases and sent my tumbler to a kid on another forum that had a real desire to reload but did not have any money.  Lots of posters sent different stuff, it was a heartwarming episode.
 
Anyway, here is one of my cleaned cases on the left and a new case on the right
 
 
It's cheaper because I don't have to buy media and polishing compound.  It's quicker and I don't have to wait on the tumbler.  I don't have to worry about media stuck in the primer hole or inside the case.  It's cleaner and I don't have abrasive media dust and polishing compound going down my barrel or in my action.  The cases have a protective coating to resist corrosion and oxidation, they're almost too slick to hold on to.  The slick case reduces bolt thrust and helps in the process of initial case expansion to reduce thinning at the web which is the start of case head separation problems.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 23:12
ckk1106 View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: December/14/2007
Location: Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 1435
Originally posted by sakomato sakomato wrote:

Supposedly you are not supposed to use anything with ammonia in it.  Ammonia reacts with the brass and weakens it.  I would be surprised if it ever got severe enough to cause a problem but why take the chance.  That's the reason Brasso is not recommended.

I found another method for cleaning cases and sent my tumbler to a kid on another forum that had a real desire to reload but did not have any money.  Lots of posters sent different stuff, it was a heartwarming episode.
 
Anyway, here is one of my cleaned cases on the left and a new case on the right
 
 
It's cheaper because I don't have to buy media and polishing compound.  It's quicker and I don't have to wait on the tumbler.  I don't have to worry about media stuck in the primer hole or inside the case.  It's cleaner and I don't have abrasive media dust and polishing compound going down my barrel or in my action.  The cases have a protective coating to resist corrosion and oxidation, they're almost too slick to hold on to.  The slick case reduces bolt thrust and helps in the process of initial case expansion to reduce thinning at the web which is the start of case head separation problems.

So what's your secret?
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/28/2008 at 23:56
sakomato View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: February/28/2008
Location: Houston
Status: Offline
Points: 1085

Sorry, got pulled away before I could finish the post.

I use a Lee Zip Trim and Flitz.  Mount the Zip Trim on a piece of 2x4 and clamp it in my bench vise.  After trimming and chamfering

 
I spread a little Flitz on the case and spread it with one of those sponges that come in the top of some bullet boxes (mostly TSX boxes)
 
 
and then hold a rag against the case and spin it
 
 
and it shines it up.  If you've ever used Flitz you know the worst part about it is getting all the black residue off and shining it up.  The Zip Trim spins the case so fast that it is a snap with a rag held against it. 
 
Last step is to clean the inside of the neck with some steel wool around a 22 caliber brush
 
 
So you go from sizing to the zip trim and trim, chamfer, clean outside and clean inside the neck at one time.  Ready to prime.
 
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/29/2008 at 11:43
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
 
 The Lee Zip-trim is something I want to try.  I take it you would recommend it, Sakomato?
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/29/2008 at 13:26
sakomato View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: February/28/2008
Location: Houston
Status: Offline
Points: 1085
Hey Ronk
 
I always have one mounted on the piece of 2x4 and one new one in the box.  I estimate they only last for about 1000 rounds or so.  The coil spring inside the mechanism breaks where it attaches to the body.  That would be easy but there are 3 free floating anti-reverse teeth that are next to impossible to get back in place.  I did it one time and said for $15.00 I would just get a new one everytime.  The minute one breaks I take the new one out and mount it and then order a new one.
 
The point I'm trying to make is that they are built cheap sorta like the Lee hand primer. 
 
Other than that I would recommend them.  The Universal 3 Jaw Chuck will fit any caliber and they last a lot longer.  When the case is mounted in the 3 Jaw Chuck it makes an excellent holder for working on the case whether you are neck turning, measuring neck thickness, trimming, chamfering, etc.  Some reloaders mount the trimmer so that you can use a hand drill but I found that tiring on my hands and arms.
 
Once you get the system down then it is easy to maintain consistancy in your actions so that the cases all come out very consistant.  There is a learning curve such as getting the 3 Jaw Chuck to grip the case head consistantly so that the case is centered.
 
It's not a lot of money anyway.  Big%20Grin
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/29/2008 at 20:41
RONK View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: April/05/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 3199
 It sounds as though it's a great idea that needs to be beefed up a little to last longer. Thanks for the info,  Sakomato!
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: March/29/2008 at 21:34
Dale Clifford View Drop Down
Optics Jedi Knight
Optics Jedi Knight


Joined: July/04/2004
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 5087
if you use a cleaner and water, use a phosphoric acid type buffer soln. this will stop the ph from taking large swings, but will allow the neutralization of the ammonia , which is basic, that is present from the conversion of the nitrates in the powder. Tri-phosphate, or phosphoric from home depot will work, but dilute it 1 part per 10.
If you shoot large amts, a tumbler is a must, polishing media, can be made from a mixture of mineral spirits, and jewelers rouge.
The washing machine and dryer should be kept for shotgun hulls , trap and skeet shooting.
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "cleaning cases?"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
Tutorial- Foolproof Way to Clean Optics Losthwy Rifle Scopes 0
Safe Clean Out Sale cpwomack Hunting and Shooting Gear For Sale 0
Cleaning suggestions groujo Binoculars 15
Cleaning lenses Greenhorn#1 Rifle Scopes 4
Cleaning Pecar Berlin 6 x 59 Steelpier Rifle Scopes 1
In case you missed the announcement... Alan Robertson Reloading & Ballistics 0
Case neck sizing/ruined hunt fishingfool Reloading & Ballistics 15
case prep little cleo Reloading & Ballistics 3
Bino Case/Harness RDM17353 Binoculars 25
RCBS case lube dezmick Reloading & Ballistics 9


This page was generated in 0.344 seconds.