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I received an email back from SWFA that my trade request was approved!  However, the email did not specify an amount for my trade and didn't reference a product to trade for.  Am I to assume that I was approved for the amount I requested?  Not sure about that...
 
Anyway...
 
I plan to trade in a never-mounted Swarovski 2.5-10x56 with illuminated 4-K reticle (Made in Austria) that I acquired in partial trade for a semi-custom lightweight 7-08.  The glass is OUTSTANDING, but I just don't want a 56mm objective on the custom 257 Weatherby that I am having Patriot Arms build up.  I like my scopes mounted low and with ZERO cheekweld issues.
 
That said, I am considering the following as optics for the 257 Weatherby and I would appreciate some feed back.
 
1)  Zeiss Victory 2.5-10x42
2)  S&B 3-12x42
3)  Swaro Z6 1.7-10x42
4)  IOR Tactical 2.5-10x42 + cash (if possible)
 
All are 30mm tubes and have quality reticles available.  I prefer a mildot/milling or #4.
 
I'm just wondering if going with the IOR doesn't make the most sense in terms of cost/performance.  I'm curious to hear your thoughts.  This is going to be a high plains rifle for chasing whitetail, muleys and antelope.  Clarity in low light conditions over distance is a MUST.
 
Thanks in advance.
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Damn...... you can't go wrong with any of those...... great position to be in.... congrats!  I really don't have a leg to stand on in this question cause I've never looked through any of those, but I'd go with the Zeiss or the Z6.
 
Good luck and please post a pic when you get it set up!


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Doesn't sound like a tactical gun, is it?

Victory or Swaro would be my choices for a hunting rifle. 1.7 on the low end would be a damn nice thing to have!
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The only difference I can gather between the IOR hunting and tactical models is the turrets and reticle.  The IOR would be quality glass and maybe some extra $$$ to help pay for the gunsmithing bill.  :)
 
I have owned several Swaro and Zeiss scopes in the past, but I am drawn to the Zeiss right now. 
 
Does Zeiss have US based customer service like Swarovski?
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The IOR will probably not have quite as nice of glass as the other 3, but I bet it will be within 3-5%.  I have 3 IOR scopes and really like all of them.  I have the 2.5-10x in FFP and it is a really nice scope.  But like Tip said they are all fantastic scopes.  Man it would really suck to be in your shoes.  Wink
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If you chose the IOR, I recommend the FFP model as its reticle will be easier to see in low light over distance even without the illumination than the SFP non-illuminated.  Illumination isn't legal for hunting everywhere.  .1 Mil clicks that match the reticle are much nicer than the clicks labeled as 1/2 MOA but when actually measured turn out to be 1/8 Mil as my SFP has.

I haven't compared the glass in mine with any of the specific scopes you mention, but after comparing it extensively with my S&B PMII 3-12X50 in low light I can assure you, you won't be disappointed in the glass.

I can only comment on that one because it's the one I have experience with.  I don't think I'd mind any of the others on that list a bit.
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I'd choose the Ziess.  I feel it's the best hunting glass available, period.  I especially like the 42mm obj.
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 I try to stay max 42mm .... makes mounting easier without having to go high or having the objective smack tight to the barrel . A darn good 42mm will have all the benefits and maybe more than alot of 50mm or 50mm + objectives . Plus they don't look like a spotlight sized objective at the end of the scope . And an IR is only going on my rifles from now on . I shoot alot under heavy canopy/shaded areas by trees  ... and very early to late evening ... helps bucu to see the crosshairs . And all that hype about battery replacement ... a new battery has a shelf life of 5 years ... I keep one in a hole under my butt plate in case . Most new scopes only need replacing them every 1,000 's of hours .... they all have auto shut off if you forget to turn them off .  Too many people think a soup can sized objective looks good at the end of a scope ... I don't .

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There is little  doubt in my mind that this is the pick of the litter for a hunting scope. I haved compared it closely to Kahles and other good scopes and it is the MAX.  The power range is better and the reticle is better than the others and since the rifle is not a tactical gun it will just look cleaner with this scope and have better lines.
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Any of your first three options are excellent choices. I note only that European tests of these scopes in low to no light conditions always shows the Zeiss Victory Diavari to be the best performer.
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