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Chief Justice John Roberts has sent a full-throated challenge of Barack Obama's presidential eligibility to conference: Lightfoot v. Bowen (SCOTUS docket page). Investigating Obama (I.O.) interviewed Lightfoot lead attorney Orly Taitz at 2:20pm CT today, minutes after she learned of this move.

Taitz believes, "This is Chief Justice Roberts telling the Congress... the other eight Justices, that there is a problem with this election."

The Lightfoot case has legal standing, due to litigant, Libertarian Gail Lightfoot's vice presidential candidacy in California. It also addresses two major issues of legal merit: 1. Obama's failure to provide legally evidentiary documentation of citizenship and American birth and, 2. his United Kingdom citizenship at birth, passed to him by his Kenyan father when that nation was a British colony. (Other current challenges also submit that Obama's apparent status as an Indonesian citizen, as a child, would have caused his American citizenship to be revoked.) This case is therefore considered the strongest yet to be heard by the Supreme Court. Obama challenger, Philip Berg had previously been granted conference hearings, scheduled this Friday, 1/9 and on 1/16.

Roberts was submitted this case on 12/29, originally a petition for an injunction against the State of California's Electoral College vote. His action comes one day before the Congress is to certify the Electoral College votes electing Barack Obama, 1/8. The conference called by Roberts is scheduled for 1/23. Orly Taitz is not deterred by the conference coming after the inauguration, which is to be held 1/20, "If they find out that he was not eligible, then they can actually rescind the election; the whole inauguration and certification were not valid." The strongest time for legal and judicial rulings is generally after the fact.

Taitz reacts to this new event as a project manager, "We'll continue working, one step at a time. Now we need to get the word out to all the media, congressmen, senators." It remains to be seen whether the "major media" will deign to cover this story, or continue to mainly report news that is negative as it pertains to natural born Citizen actions addressing Obama.

"They will hear the case, then, if they find out... Obama was elected fraudulently, they will find out the whole process was not valid." Taits calls this conference itself an important hearing and then, "I think that we'll have four Justices, then it will go to oral arguments and all American Citizens will be able to hear the case." In such a conference, four Supreme Court Justices of the nine must vote for certiorari — to have a full review generally including a public hearing. However, the Lightfoot filing is not at this point a petition for a writ of certiorari. In theory, the court may issue an order of the court regarding the process, or pertaining to a then, apparent President Obama's standing.

Taitz stressed that the public must know immediately about matters that may have been hidden in Barack Obama's candidacy, citing one example, that "Most of the country has no clue that one relative can go to the state of Hawaii and sign an affidavit that 'my relative was born a citizen'" and thus gain an Hawaiian birth certificate for that person, even if he were born abroad. That is the same kind of birth certificate that Barack Obama has not allowed to be seen, but which Hawaiian state officials have reported exists in privately held state records.

The earlier Lightfoot petition to the California State Supreme Court for a stay of that state's Electoral College election had been denied at that level.

One of many potentially odd twists to monitor in this electoral process is that as of Friday, 1/2, the National Archives had received Electoral College votes from only twenty-four of fifty states, not nearly enough votes for Congress to count tomorrow for an election.

Investigating Obama will continue to monitor this and related cases, and link to news and examinations of them, from other newsworthy sites. The Web site of Orly Taitz relates her perspective, further. Readers are free to repost or excerpt this article.


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Is this serious?????
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Finally, a change we can believe in!
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Ok, what would be the next step?  If Obama is not able to be seated, then what? Martial law?
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I think Michelle Obama takes over if I am not misaken.  I wonder, will the USA still be considered mean in her eyes?
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If after the inauguration, would it not go the VP?
Is that any better?
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Just pause for a moment, and imagine, what if Obama's election was declared illegal?
 
I am thinking we would need Ed's security forces.
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Originally posted by Ick Ick wrote:

I think Michelle Obama takes over if I am not misaken.  I wonder, will the USA still be considered mean in her eyes?
C'mon, Ick.  This, USA, is NOT a monarchy.  I am not certain we will be much better off, if Obama's US citizenship truly does not exist.  This is a Constitutional crisis of a magnitude we have never experienced.  Simply because the "mainstream media", including Fox News, has refused to investigate and report on this. 
1) Obama's grandmother said she attended his birth in Kenya,
2) No hospital in Hawaii has produced a record of Obama's birth,
3) the Certificate of Live Birth is not a birth certificate, but as stated in the article, a means by which Hawaii recognizes the birth of a baby outside the US,
4) several of Obama's close associates have stated they know he is not a "natural born citizen",
5) WHY HAS HE NOT JUST PRODUCED THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND ENDED THE SPECULATION????
 
The line of sucession would stand: Vice President, Speaker of the House, President Pro Tempore of the Senate, Secretary of State... ad infinitum.  Joe Biden would become president and select a vice-president.
 
 
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I don't think Biden would take over since he would then be part of an illegal election.  I am thinking that Nancy Pelosi would take over, no?
 
I was thinking that illegal elections need to be re-done.... not just passed over.  Pelosi would serve until another election can be held?
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Heaven help us if Pelosi, who by chain of succession would be up since the incumbent President has been in for 8 years.  We can only hope Barack Hussein Obama gets bounced out and I don't think Biden would be up due to he was part of an illegal election.
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I believe Obama (and Biden) will be sworn in before the SCOTUS takes any significant action.  At that point, regardless of what happens, Biden will be the Vice President.  The nullification of an Obama presidency due to failure to meet the qualifications will not impact upon Biden, who does (more be the curses upon us).  Even if they were to take action prior to swearing in, I still believe Biden would become the president.  If Obama died prior to taking office, Biden would be sworn in as VP, then become president by succession.  I think that would happen under the "unqualified" case, as well.
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I certainly see your point, but I do think there is some kind of precident for illegal federal elections.  I think it might taint the whole ticket as people were voting for a president, not really the VP.
 
Heck, if Obama is disqualified perhaps the next highest in electoral college votes takes office (McCain)?
 
Like you said though, that may have to be pre-January 20.
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Could this be the huge event that Biden has warned us is coming in the first six months of the new presidency?
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What did Biden say "He is going to have to do something that isn't very popular...." or something like that.
 
Could he mean declare martial law and pronounce himself as King and the USA as Obamanation?
Now change that second "a" to and "i" and what do you get?
 
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                                                  Wasn't part of Nancy Pelosi's anatomy supposed to do something?? *  Wink 
 
 
 
 
* a joke from way long ago last summer...............Bucky
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

 
 
 
 
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                                                  Wasn't part of Nancy Pelosi's anatomy supposed to do something?? *  Wink 
 
 
 
 
* a joke from way long ago last summer...............Bucky
 
Oh come on Ed. It just got to where I can sleep again after seing that.
 
If the dose happen what to you supose the masses wil do?
 
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You think the Rodney King verdict caused rioting?  This will be 1000x worse and longer lasting.
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Originally posted by Chris Farris Chris Farris wrote:

You think the Rodney King verdict caused rioting?  This will be 1000x worse and longer lasting.
 
That it what I was thinking or planning for anyways. I just hope for the big picture it dosen't happen. This is to great of a country to fall into itself.
 
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from the Constitution:

3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

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Is this country going to actually start to read and abide by the constitution now?
 
Good find.
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WOW!  This could get really interesting!  Regardless of the ramifications, the Constitutional mandates for qualifications for POTUS must be upheld!
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I am very excited by all this.  It makes me feel that there is Someone Somewhere who actually still abides by the Constitution.  Amazing.
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