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Let's face it...some of us have to SCRATCH together some scratch to get new optics...and unfortunately, i'm in this boat right now.  We don't see many reviews in the "cheap" market and most people subscribe to "you get what you pay for."

I personally have had a couple inexpensive gems, and my current rifle is yet but another of these little finds.  Marlin hit a home run with the X_7 series bolt action rifles and I have a .308 that just loves cheap federal factory loads (printing 1/2 to 3/4 inch groups at 100 yd)

My current scope is a Bushnell Banner Dusk to Dawn 6-18x50 but it's too big for deer hunting in SWPA.  I want to go to a smaller scope, and something with a mildot reticle, with a max mag of 10x, and preferably a side or no focus (I LOATHE AO scopes for hunting).

So I'm looking for input on scopes that falll in the 100 or less category, that could be used RELIABLY on 30-06 and below.

Two such contendors might be the Tasco Target/Varmint 2.5-10x40 mildot  if not for the AO, or the http://swfa.com/Hawke-3-9x40-Sport-HD-Riflescope-P41172.aspx">Hawke 3-9x40 Mildot

anyone have any GOOD things to share about any of the scopes in this price range?
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No kidding now!
 
I would not go below THAT level of quality:
 
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The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.
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The cheapest scope that I have personally evaluated that worked well is Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40.  It is just under $100.

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Koshkin, the Hawke Frontier 3-9x40 is at $80 right now.  Are you saying that the Bushnell Trophy would be better than that, or just that you haven't personally tested it to find out?  
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Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

Koshkin, the Hawke Frontier 3-9x40 is at $80 right now.  Are you saying that the Bushnell Trophy would be better than that, or just that you haven't personally tested it to find out?  

I have never seen the two side by side, so I do not know for sure.

I have an older Sightron S1, and I think it is a little better than the Trophy, so perhaps Hawke Frontier is the way to go.

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I have the Bushnell Trophy that was already mentioned on my marlin xs7 in 7/08. I think its the best scope in the price range and fits well on the gun. The only think that bothers me a little is that the focus ring and ocular on this scope are huge. Scope is mounted low and the bolt barely clears the focus ring by 1mm or so. I have to be careful when I cycle the bolt that I dont smack it up too hard. The scope is bright and clear, the focus is smooth and the adjustments are predictable/repeatable. I'd like a bit more eye relief, but 3.4 inches is ok for a 7/08... 

SWFA is running a deal now and you can get the scope and a 20x50 spotting scope for $89. Not bad at all.

I know some people will scoff at a gun/scope combo that comes in under $450, but mine is shooting  honest 1 inch groups (I use heavy shooting bags on the bench) at 200 yds with the cheap winchester 140gr soft points. Best money I ever spent on a gun.
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I have a few hunting buddies that have used tasco world class scopes for years.  They can't see the logic in spending $500+ for a scope, while I don't agree with their reasoning it's worked for them and who am I to judge. 
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Nikon ProStaff 3X9X40.....pretty good scope for the $$.
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Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.


a little confused........ I thought Sightron was made in Japan and Hawke made in China?
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I have older SI's and there made in Japan. I don't know if Sightron moved production of S1's?
 
 I will say the Hawke scope mentioned does look like the Sightron. The Hawke says fully multicoated. SI are multicoated
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Hawke's website mentions a the Frontier being some sort of Japanese manufacture a couple times...
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.


a little confused........ I thought Sightron was made in Japan and Hawke made in China?

Hawke Frontier scopes are made in Japan.

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On the Nikon Prostaff subject...I have a 3x9 with the BDC on my 17 HMR, and was shooting next to a gentleman with what looked to be a few year old Leupold.  He wanted to shoot the 17 so I let him, and he couldnt believe how nice the Nikon Prostaff scope was, thought it was better then what he was using.
 
I just got a Monarch and I must say that the prostaff appears to be every bit as clear as the Monarch in overcast conditions.   
 
 
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The Sightron S1 is a good scope for the money.The Bushnell Legend is also a nice scope.The Center Point scopes are rather inexpensive and offer plenty of value and rated for 416 Rigby recoil.   
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Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.
 
Is this an opinion based on a side by side comparison, or are you saying  they are made in the same factory where one is stamped Hawke Frontier and the other is stamped Sightron SI?  Just trying to figure out the basis of this statement?  I have never heard it before.
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The latter is what Jason is saying... I have heard this as well via this site.
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Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.
 
Is this an opinion based on a side by side comparison, or are you saying  they are made in the same factory where one is stamped Hawke Frontier and the other is stamped Sightron SI?  Just trying to figure out the basis of this statement?  I have never heard it before.
 
Same Same think  Chevrolet and GMC
 
I have a Sightron S1 3-9 mildot and a Bushnell Trophy and they are both nice scopes for the price and I dont think  you can beat this deal:
Bushnell 3-9x40 Trophy Rifle Scope Multi-X Bushnell 3-9x40 Trophy Rifle Scope
Stock # - 733948PM
  • Matte
  • Multi-X
  • 1"
  • Free Bushnell 20x50 Spotting Scope
$79.95 
Add Bushnell 3-9x40 Trophy Rifle Scope to Cart
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Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.
 
Is this an opinion based on a side by side comparison, or are you saying  they are made in the same factory where one is stamped Hawke Frontier and the other is stamped Sightron SI?  Just trying to figure out the basis of this statement?  I have never heard it before.

They are made in the same factory and are marketed by different companies under different names.

ILya
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do they share any other products??
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Does Hawke have an SII version, Big Sky version, or an SIII version?
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Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

Does Hawke have an SII version, Big Sky version, or an SIII version?

The rest of Hawke's line-up has no correlation to Sigtron whatsoever.

Hawke's Frontier Side Focus scopes compete against Sightron S2 Big Sky.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.
 
Is this an opinion based on a side by side comparison, or are you saying  they are made in the same factory where one is stamped Hawke Frontier and the other is stamped Sightron SI?  Just trying to figure out the basis of this statement?  I have never heard it before.

They are made in the same factory and are marketed by different companies under different names.

ILya


ILya.... a little more clarification if you could.... are they the same exact thing or just made in the same factory?
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by JimFromTN JimFromTN wrote:

Originally posted by jason miller jason miller wrote:

The Hawke Frontier is the exact same scope as that Sightron S1 and costs a tad less.
 
Is this an opinion based on a side by side comparison, or are you saying  they are made in the same factory where one is stamped Hawke Frontier and the other is stamped Sightron SI?  Just trying to figure out the basis of this statement?  I have never heard it before.

They are made in the same factory and are marketed by different companies under different names.

ILya


ILya.... a little more clarification if you could.... are they the same exact thing or just made in the same factory?

THE SAME EXACT THING.  DIFFERENT LABELS
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