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Unbelievable.  Imagine the possibilities for soldiers wounded in the war.
 
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Heady stuff.  Sounded like a put on when I first started watching, amazing advances.
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Heady is not the word for it!
 
WOW I had no idea they had advanced so far without stem cells.
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Why draft soldiers when you can make them. Comming soon to a base near you.
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god will destroy us all for figuring this stuff out at some point.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

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I bet John Bobit would have loved to had some of that powder stuff.
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Or look on the bright side pyro.  He gave us brains to use and better ourselves.  This might be one of his successes.
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i dont think god would have a sense of humor when it came to use having "god like" powers. if we figure out the way to bring back the dead, i fear we will cease to exists shortly there after.

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Tough call.  Here's why.
 
Not too many years ago if someone drowned, they were dead - gone.
 
Now many of these same folks through CPR are "brought back".  This was human intelligence at work - where you draw the line is difficult.  Where do we say it's ok to use our learning Vs interfering with divine intervention?  Do we stop if technology is involved?  If so, all those bypass patients would  not be here.
 
Do we stop at tissue tranplantation?   If so all those who have a new lease on life through cadaver donation for kidneys, lungs, heart, corneas, etc are left by the wayside.
 
Difficult issue to be sure  
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cpr is arguing with god. im talking about somebody who is dead and cold, and we snap our fingers and all of a sudden they are 100% back to normal stuff. crap like you would see in the movies.the other thing is that people would use it to live forever.


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Genesis 1:28 (New International Version)

 28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

I believe that God gave the earth to use.  He gave us Brains to figure things out.  Stem cells are found in adults as well and some believe that they hold more promise than embryonic ones.  Jesus healed people, made the lame to walk and healed the servant of the high priest's ear that was cut off.  Not for a moment saying that we are God, but I believe he is revealing his creation to us.  Using components from pig bladders is one way of using or subduing creation.   Bring people back to life.... well Jesus did it with Lazarus.  Once again, we are not God, but if he has planned a way that we could use his creation to do this, who is to say.  I don't believe we should kill the unborn to heal the living.

Look at all the things that we have learned.  Penicillin, vaccinations, even vitamins.  We didn't create them, through trial and error, we learned about them.



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Besides if God wants somebody to be dead and stay dead, He will make them stay dead.  
 
Not a problem. 
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We are an inquisitive species.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Besides if God wants somebody to be dead and stay dead, He will make them stay dead.  
 
Not a problem. 


Bingo.  We can not alter His plan.
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Uh-oh.
 
I just realized something.
 
These breakthroughs will invariably lead to...........................
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
ZOMBIES!
 
 
 
 
Better update your zombie plan!
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

cpr is arguing with god. im talking about somebody who is dead and cold, and we snap our fingers and all of a sudden they are 100% back to normal stuff. crap like you would see in the movies.the other thing is that people would use it to live forever.
 
Married forever.  AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I bet John Bobit would have loved to had some of that powder stuff.
 
Wonder if you just made little slices then covered and wrapped..would it grow???
 
We could call it Root Grow and be overnight billionaires!! Yippee
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I didn't see anywhere where they were talking about bringing the dead back to life! I didsee where they repaired a body part using your own cells. I only wish this technology was around in 1997, then maybe I would have ten good fingers and two good hands, or at least what I do have left would be in good working order. I don't think preserving life and/or limb is godlike, but a gift from God. 
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Interesting technology.  Great for the sick and wounded.  God has allowed us to develop this technology.  But, you will never be able to bring back the dead.  You can't put the spirit and soul back into a body once it is gone (only Jesus could, and He was God).
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

cpr is arguing with god. im talking about somebody who is dead and cold, and we snap our fingers and all of a sudden they are 100% back to normal stuff. crap like you would see in the movies.the other thing is that people would use it to live forever.
 
Jesus brought the dead back to life.  If he wants to bring one back who are we to argue about it.Wink   Not to worry.  Hate to disappoint the zombie hunters but I dont think science can do it.
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Originally posted by SD Dog SD Dog wrote:

Genesis 1:28 (New International Version)

 28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

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Look at all the things that we have learned.  Penicillin, vaccinations, even vitamins.  We didn't create them, through trial and error, we learned about them.

 
I agree with SD on this.  Not that I don't respect others opinions, which is the beauty of living in our country.  We're allowed to not only have those opinions, but actually voice them without being shot dead.
 
I think in the grand scheme of things we haven't begun to scratch the surface of our abilities or come close to 'god' like powers.  Lets not fool ourselves...  We haven't even discovered everything there is to know about our own planet and it's inhabitants.. Last time I checked, God created the heavens and earth... inclusive of that is the universe.  There is an awful lot out there that we don't have a clue about.. Heck there's a lot out there the we don't even know exist to even know there's a lot out there about!!  
 
In truth.. we're not even in kindergarden class at the school of 'god'... Only he and he alone knows when we have gone to far and it's time to pull the plug on this petri dish experiment he calls humans. 
 
Of course, I could be naive and the end could be soon.. But I prefer to be a little more optimistic.  Not try to predict gods plans.  Study the facts and know that we really don't know a whole lot about much in comparison to the size of our universe.  When somebody starts saying we can create a universe etc.....  I might get a little more concerned.
 
We're still squabbling about Global Warming... OK, so the planet is warming a smidget.. How do we know this isn't just the normal ebbs and flows of a 500 or 1000 or more year weather pattern.. WE DON'T... WE'RE GUESSING...  Based on soil and ice samples and a 100 years of weather records ( RELIABLE DATA RECORDS ) not scribbling on cave walls. 
 
Sorry, but the advancement of our knowledge and abilities is the natural progression of man kind.  The real test (in my humble opinion) is WHAT WE DO  with the knowledge... God gave us the ability (and expectation) to learn and advance... What he didn't do was give us the ability to only do good with it... Thats what we are being judged on...
 
Growing body parts, saving lives, flying to planets.... I think that is just the normal progression of the big plan......  Predicting the end of our existence based on the Bible..... thats a tough one to tackle.... Me personally, I think I'll leave that up to God and just try to lead the life he wants.
 
Why I have this opinion is the years I have spent in a high tech field.  The privilege of working with engineers and scientist.. Incredibly bright people... Many are devout Christians and I will say this first hand.  They are even stronger in their beliefs because of the work they do... They see everyday how little we understand about our existence and how much that re-inforces their faith in God.  It takes a power beyond our ability to understand how to create our world and our universe.   
 
Just my humble opinion. 
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Excelent thread.  There is some good stuff in here.
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