New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Celestron Regal 80 questions
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Check GunBroker.com for SWFA's No Reserve and No Minimum bid firearm auctions.

Celestron Regal 80 questions

 Post Reply Post Reply   Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 07:54
tompac View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice


Joined: May/19/2010
Status: Offline
Points: 86
I know I have asked a ton of questions about this scope over the last year. But, I don't have the chance to look thru any scopes, so I probably have more questions to ask than most.
I am going to purchase a scope this year, probably spring or early summer. My intended uses are wildlife veiwing, spotting for target shooting,(most will be 200 yards or less) and I am very interested in digiscopeing. While I know that the Vortex Razor is extremely well thought of, 1600.00 is a lot of money for me to spend, especially when you consider that I have no experience with a spotting scope. The new Zen Ray and Theron spotters are getting good reveiws, but are unproven in my opinion. And Vortex is coming out with a Viper line of scopes soon. I own a Viper riflescope and it is a lot of bang for the buck. All this brings me back to the Celestron Regal 80. Good reveiws, fits my budget and accepts standard 1.25 eyepeices.
Can anyone make any argument against this scope? If I buy this scope and later decide that I want a better scope, could I resell it for a decent price? And I have read that ALL scopes vary from scope to scope. How can I, being a rookie, tell if I have a good one? I have nothing to compare it to.
Any and all advice will be appreciated!!!!!!
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 09:13
Klamath View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: May/20/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1267
While a proven design is desirable, you can beat yourself to death with placing too much emphasis on it.  For instance, the Vortex Razor HD spotter is hardly proven.  It is barely a few months old.  Vortex has yet to prove they can even get the HD line off the drawing board, through the factory and to their dealers.  So when the Viper HD spotter comes out, it will hardly be "proven".  I expect it will be a very good spotter by the way.  The way new optics are coming out lately, by the time a design has been out long enough to get the proven seal of approval, it may well be obsolete.  Theron may be a new company, but the spotter is based on one of the most proven spotter designs in the world, the Nikon Fieldscope.  That design has been around since the early 1980's.  The Zen Ray is not proven either, but last weekends side by side evaluation of the ZEN ED 2 spotter and the Razor spotter tells me there is no observable difference in the scopes.
 
I guess the point is that the only way you will get "proven" is to go with long term established century old companies.  The $1,600 for the Razor won't get you through that door.
 
Sorry, I can't say anything about the Celestron, as i've never seen one.


Edited by Klamath - February/21/2011 at 09:20
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 09:32
Bitterroot Bulls View Drop Down
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Optics Master Extraordinaire
Avatar

Joined: May/07/2009
Location: Montana
Status: Offline
Points: 3379
My particular Vortex Razor HD spotter is absolutely field proven, and I don't hesitate to recommend the model.  This is a combination of my unit's outstanding performance and Vortex's excellent customer service.

I would also be confident in the Zen, given my recent positive interactions with that company's customer service.  Steve and I seem to see things the same way, and if the ZEN is the optical and build equal of the Razor HD, it is a fine instrument.  I would like to examine a ZEN myself, but I am keeping the Razor I have.  It seems those two spotters probably share some lineage, in one way or another.

I don't have any direct experience with the Celestron, but its list of features, and generally positive reviews (even from some sticklers on birdforum) would make it worth the gamble at its price point, IMO.  Using Astro eyepieces is a major advantage.

tompac,

I think a good example of any of these instruments will provide suitable performance.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 09:36
tompac View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice


Joined: May/19/2010
Status: Offline
Points: 86
Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

While a proven design is desirable, you can beat yourself to death with placing too much emphasis on it.  For instance, the Vortex Razor HD spotter is hardly proven.  It is barely a few months old.  Vortex has yet to prove they can even get the HD line off the drawing board, through the factory and to their dealers.  So when the Viper HD spotter comes out, it will hardly be "proven".  I expect it will be a very good spotter by the way.  The way new optics are coming out lately, by the time a design has been out long enough to get the proven seal of approval, it may well be obsolete.  Theron may be a new company, but the spotter is based on one of the most proven spotter designs in the world, the Nikon Fieldscope.  That design has been around since the early 1980's.  The Zen Ray is not proven either, but last weekends side by side evaluation of the ZEN ED 2 spotter and the Razor spotter tells me there is no observable difference in the scopes.
 
I guess the point is that the only way you will get "proven" is to go with long term established century old companies.  The $1,600 for the Razor won't get you through that door.
 
Sorry, I can't say anything about the Celestron, as i've never seen one.
 
 Thanks, Klamath. Am not cutting the Zen Ray or Theron. And I know from yours and others posts that Zen Ray will stand behind their products. Can't beat that.
 The reveiws I have read on the Celestron put it in the Bushnell Elite, Brunton Eterna class. Some rate it up with the Pentax PF80. I think it is sort of like comparing the Razor to the Alphas, same optical quality at a lower price. I like buying the best, but I always want some experience before deciding to drop big bucks. I did this with metal detectors, starting with a entry class, moving up to mid class and when I decided that I wanted to stay in the metal detecting business, I dropped some serious money for the best on the market. No regrets.
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 14:29
Klamath View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: May/20/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1267
Originally posted by tompac 
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Thanks, Klamath. Am not cutting the Zen Ray or Theron. And I know from yours and others posts that Zen Ray will stand behind their products. Can't beat that.   </DIV>
<DIV>[/QUOTE tompac
 
 Thanks, Klamath. Am not cutting the Zen Ray or Theron. And I know from yours and others posts that Zen Ray will stand behind their products. Can't beat that.   
[/QUOTE wrote:

 
 
 I didn't take that as a cut at anybody.  Just an observation that absolute field "proven" takes some time.  One guy with one optic can field prove it pretty quickly,
 
 
 I didn't take that as a cut at anybody.  Just an observation that absolute field "proven" takes some time.  One guy with one optic can field prove it pretty quickly, absolute longevity in the seller of the product takes way more time.  Even Vortex has not been around very long.
 
You are sort of in a quandry, as I was actually, on a scope.  There are essentially none sold locally aside from an ocassional Swarovski and maybe a mid level like Vortex Nomad, but most of the crap is better off being taken to the range and serving time as the target.
 
I'd say that the reviews on the Celestron seem pretty good, so go that route and buy one.  Other than that go to the SWFA inventory and see what they sell in a similar vein (I know they carry the Elite).  The Bushnell Legend Ultra HD should be pretty good too.  I have a 13-36x50 Legend Ultra HD that is pretty decent for a small scope.
 
Going with a dealer with a stand up return policy can pay real dividends.
 
Now that's wierd, I have no idea why the first line of the post appears in the quote and in the body of the text too. Loco


Edited by Klamath - February/21/2011 at 14:33
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 14:46
tompac View Drop Down
Optics Apprentice
Optics Apprentice


Joined: May/19/2010
Status: Offline
Points: 86
Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

Originally posted by tompac 
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Thanks, Klamath. Am not cutting the Zen Ray or Theron. And I know from yours and others posts that Zen Ray will stand behind their products. Can't beat that.   </DIV>
<DIV></td></tr></table> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> I didn't take that as a cut at anybody.  Just an observation that absolute field proven takes some time.  One guy with one optic can field prove it pretty quickly, absolute longevity in the seller of the product takes way more time.  Even Vortex has not been around very long.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You are sort of in a quandry, as I was actually, on a scope.  There are essentially none sold locally aside from an ocassional Swarovski and maybe a mid level like Vortex Nomad, but most of the crap is better off being taken to the range and serving time as the target.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'd say that the reviews on the Celestron seem pretty good, so go that route and buy one.  Other than that go to the SWFA inventory and see what they sell in a similar vein (I know they carry the Elite).  The Bushnell Legend Ultra HD should be pretty good too.  I have a 13-36x50 Legend Ultra HD that is pretty decent for a small scope.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Going with a dealer with a stand up return policy can pay real dividends.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now that's wierd, I have no idea why the first line of the post appears in the quote and in the body of the text too. <img src=http://www.opticstalk.com/smileys/Loco.gif height=15 width=23 border=0 alt=Loco title=Loco /></DIV>[/QUOTE tompac
 
 Thanks, Klamath. Am not cutting the Zen Ray or Theron. And I know from yours and others posts that Zen Ray will stand behind their products. Can't beat that.   
 
 
 I didn't take that as a cut at anybody.  Just an observation that absolute field proven takes some time.  One guy with one optic can field prove it pretty quickly, absolute longevity in the seller of the product takes way more time.  Even Vortex has not been around very long.
 
You are sort of in a quandry, as I was actually, on a scope.  There are essentially none sold locally aside from an ocassional Swarovski and maybe a mid level like Vortex Nomad, but most of the crap is better off being taken to the range and serving time as the target.
 
I'd say that the reviews on the Celestron seem pretty good, so go that route and buy one.  Other than that go to the SWFA inventory and see what they sell in a similar vein (I know they carry the Elite).  The Bushnell Legend Ultra HD should be pretty good too.  I have a 13-36x50 Legend Ultra HD that is pretty decent for a small scope.
 
Going with a dealer with a stand up return policy can pay real dividends.
 
Now that's wierd, I have no idea why the first line of the post appears in the quote and in the body of the text too. Loco
[/QUOTE wrote:

 
Klamath,changing subject here, but is that Legend in the same class as a Nikon ED50?
 
Klamath,changing subject here, but is that Legend in the same class as a Nikon ED50?
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/21/2011 at 14:54
Klamath View Drop Down
Optics Master
Optics Master
Avatar

Joined: May/20/2007
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 1267
No the Legend is not in the same class with the Nikon.  I don't think any available 50mm glass is.
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Similar Threads: "Celestron Regal 80 questions"
Subject Author Forum Replies Last Post
Pentax XW 10 on Celestron Regal 80 onfinal Spotting Scopes 7
Vortex Impact 25-75x70 vs Konuspot-80 20-60x80 b00gym4n Spotting Scopes 3
80 Moa scope GetSome Rifle Scopes 6
Swarovski ATS 65 or 80 mgombert Spotting Scopes 11
65 or 80? Mike VS Spotting Scopes 8
Bushnell 80 MM Elites Rusty Spotting Scopes 1 7/15/2005 7:59:21 PM
Swarovski STS 80 Eyepiece ThomasAz Spotting Scopes 5 11/22/2004 6:36:09 AM
FOR SALE Swarovski Habicht ST-80 HD Spotting Scope TrojanAx Spotting Scopes 0
Zeiss Orion 80/I Fero Z51 gcp Rifle Scopes 31
$1200 CNC and an 80% lower jonoMT Firearms 0


This page was generated in 0.156 seconds.