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one thing on cleaning cases after lubing, either do it consistently or don't do it at all, The amount of friction and case adhesion is significantly different in both cases. Usually just a light wipe down will do, but do what ever the same. each case each time. One trick I use on autos is leaving the light film, which allows a significant difference in case extraction.
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We have a household cooking product called Spray and Cook. It contains Teflon. It is used to spray on cooking and baking utensils to prevent food sticking to the pan etc. Engineers build a bridge across a gorge in Knysa. The bridge was built from one end on skids and pushed along as it was lengthened. At a point it got stuck. Some bright spark suggested Spray and Cook. Well it worked and the bridged was pushed along.
 
I use the same product on my cases and dies. I put all my cases in a shell holder and spray them all round and slightly into the mouth. Then I squirt a little into the die. They slip in and out of the die like a ...well.... you get the picture! The only thing is you have to rinse the cases and the dies with thinners afterwards, as the Spray and Cook hardens after a while (as in a week) to allmost a shellac. Also clean your work surface afterwards.
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

We have a household cooking product called Spray and Cook. It contains Teflon. It is used to spray on cooking and baking utensils to prevent food sticking to the pan etc. Engineers build a bridge across a gorge in Knysa. The bridge was built from one end on skids and pushed along as it was lengthened. At a point it got stuck. Some bright spark suggested Spray and Cook. Well it worked and the bridged was pushed along.
 
I use the same product on my cases and dies. I put all my cases in a shell holder and spray them all round and slightly into the mouth. Then I squirt a little into the die. They slip in and out of the die like a ...well.... you get the picture! The only thing is you have to rinse the cases and the dies with thinners afterwards, as the Spray and Cook hardens after a while (as in a week) to allmost a shellac. Also clean your work surface afterwards.
 
We have something like that in the States. It is called PAM.  I don't think it contains Teflon, though. Anybody lube cases with PAM?
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Still use the RCBS lube and roll 'em on the pad.  Just use very little.  Never had a stuck case.  Had the same bottle of case lube for years now.
 
Like cheaptrick I got rid of the expander ball too.  Use the Lee Collet Neck Sizer and reduce your runout significantly and no lube inside the neck. 
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I have found several better options than the old pad routine.  The first, for high volume loading is Hornady's One Shot and an old shoe box.  Lay the cases in the shoe box until the bottom is about 2/3 full (with enough room for the cases to roll around on the bottom).  Spray the cases in the box for about 2 seconds then shake for about 5 seconds.  Repeat twice and you are done.  You can lube about 40-50 .308 cases in less than a minute.........depending on your shoe size!!  Learned this one on AR-15.com.

Next is to use Imperial sizing wax applied with fingers.  This stuff is great.  Not as fast as the shoe box trick, but it is perfect for loading just a few rounds.  Much better than the greasy crap on the pad.
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I have used lucas oil stabilizer. it worked better than anything I have tryed. It dosen't take much at all and goes along ways.
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Dillon case lube, by their directions. I believe it's lanolin and alcohol. I use either the Dillon or Pacific carbide neck expander for the necks; works great.
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Crane Cam Super Lube.
It's an additive used for breaking in a new camshaft, added to engine oil during first fire up.
A fantastic hi-pressure lube, I use it for heavy case forming operations. Needs to be removed after use. Messy, sticky, smelly, lots of sulfer smell. Works great thou.
 
Will probably use Imperial wax next time, avoid the cleanup step.
 
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I've been using MOTOR MEDIC on a Q-tip inside and outside the neck for forming 204 cases up tp .22, .24 and .25.  I just bought some  Imperial Sizing Wax, will give it a try.
 
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When I first started reloading and I was even more stupid then I am today, I used NOTHING!!!
I did not know that case lube had to be applied. My younger brother helped me. We could not understand why the job was so difficult. We virtually pulled and ripped the press and table apart!
Man, looking back, the folly of the ignorant.....!!! 
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Interesting set of comments.
 
I use nickel-plated cases and Lee collet dies.  A simple wipe down with WD-40 cleans the cases, and no further lube is needed at any stage of the reloading process.
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Stupid question.  I have the imperical case wax I find it easiest to use by lubricating the die about every 5 or so cases.  Applying it to the cases is messy and uses more that what is needed.  How do you guys use the imperial case wax?
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Also, I may have missed this in a post, but has anyone ever tried Mobile 1 Synthetic motor oil applied to a lube pad?

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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

How do you guys use the imperial case wax?
 
I use it only for the spindle of my neck turning tool when chucked up in a drill.  For full length resizing lube, I use one of the spray-on case lubes such as the RCBS spray lube.  Otherwise, if I'm neck sizing only, I use a bushing die with coated carbide bushing, which requires no lube.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

  How do you guys use the imperial case wax?
 
 I just dip the pad of my index finger and the pad of my thumb in it and roll  the case in between them.
I use a Q-tip to roll a bit of it inside the neck.
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 
Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

  How do you guys use the imperial case wax?
 
 I just dip the pad of my index finger and the pad of my thumb in it and roll  the case in between them.
I use a Q-tip to roll a bit of it inside the neck.
 Thats the way I have evolved into doing it.  Great stuff.  The Lyman lubricating pad and lubricant that came with my reloader works pretty well, but not as good as the Imperial case wax.  I have not even gotten a case close to being stuck with that stuff.


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