Carbon removal from barrel..

Dale Clifford wrote: You have the "Dreaded Cone of Carbon", a common event which occurs more as the more "over bore" the caliber and powder charge combination. Copper fouling really isn't a problem, but carbon build up will ruin accuracy. the best carbon cleaning solvents are unsaturated aromatic ethers. light wt. synthetic motor oil. the ether bridge has an unshared pair of electrons, which combines with the carbon residue, and the aromatic rings are a natural carbon solvent. Saturate barrel with a wet swab let stand for a couple of hours, spray out the residue with brake fluid , follow with one pass of JB's bore cleaner , then Kroil If you had been using moly this wouldn't have happened.

 

I want to clarify my earlier statement. I use a dry patch after treatment with the wipe out, then pull a brake free treated bore snake through to put a very light coat of protection in the barrel. Sorry for any confusion.

After the Wipe Out, I use dry patches until they come out clean or light grey. Then I treat the barrel with Tetra Gun bore conditioner, followed with 1 dry patch to remove excess conditioner.

I have been using something that has been under a lot of peoples radar. You can find the exact formula online. I have seen it called Ed's red. My formulation is called gungravy.

I mixed a gallon or so of Ed's Red a few years back and I think I still have a 80% of it left.  I suspect that it will last me for the rest of my life and it only cost a few bucks.

shooter07 wrote: BoreTech Eliminator   Best solvent i've ever used to date.

I agree.  Wipe out is great too, but this stuff is numero uno in my book.  Another "miracle" cleaner is Iosso Bore Paste.  You can scrub and clean 'til your hearts content, then run Iosso through it and see the crap you couldn't get out otherwise.  Nylon brushes are the way to go also.  I still like Butch's best for copper. 

I have tried this and that..nothing. I tried the lightweight oil. I use Ballistol etc....nothing.

For years I have used Gunslick Foaming Bore Cleaner with adequate results. This stuff contains Ethanolamine sort of a spin off of ammonia and alcohol and is commonly used in dry cleaning and other industrial applications. I use this stuff with rubber gloves and immediately wipe off any spilled residue from wood, inside actions and other parts. All of my barrels are stainless and a 1-2 hour soak of this stuff appears to remove both carbon and copper. I neglected to remove some of this stuff from an carbon steel ejector in a carbon steel receiver and a good deposit of rust resulted. Traces of rust sometimes form inside stainless receivers used in humid warm conditions.  

shooter07 wrote: BoreTech Eliminator   Best solvent i've ever used to date.

Been using that with copper eliminator every 80 - 100 rounds no problem.
Also heard Montana extreme works well, all of their products are non-corrosive/abrasive.

8shots, do you use a nylon brush with the Boretech products, as they direct?

I've seen almost diamond-hard carbon deposits before that only an abrasive would take out. I've seen them when the shooter used an oooold-line surplus spherical powder, and a supposedly-new-tech stick powder. Both of these are marketed by the same intermediate company. Perhaps it happens with some other marketers' powders, but where I've seen it is with just a couple powders from the one outfit. Not all the powders they market exhibit this carbon fouling characteristic, but I don't use enough of their stick powders to know whether it's an across-the-board issue with the one manufacturer they buy from or not. I know it's not an across-the-board issue from another of the manufacturers they buy from.

BeltFed wrote: +1 on the Wipe Out. There is another foaming bore cleaner that removes carbon and copper, but I can't remember if it's Outters, or Birchwood Casey's. Wipe Out is still my first choice though. Haven't had to use a bore brush since I started using it.

BeltFed, correct on the Wipe-Out, I use Accellerator first., then Wipe-Out. End of story. I get mine from my gunsmith, it's the only thing he'll use.

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