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I purchased a .257 Weatherby Vanguard Series 2 and a Vortex Diamondback scope.  After replacing the scope, which Vortex handled imediately, I still can not get the gun to pattern.  This is after about $500 in ammo and repeated calls to Weatherby.  Weatherby instructed me use their ammunition vs. Hornady (which was $45 a box more) and still no good.  We even used a sled.
I can now return it to Weatherby at my expense, however if they scope it and can pattern it they will charge me $150 and return it to me.
Has anyone else had this problem?  I, and my two buddies have scoped and sighted in a LOT of guns over the years, but this one has us stumped.
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Something is fishy in Denmark. The Vanguards usually shoot well (even though it's not uncommon to have to try different ammo but not specifically Weatherby ammo). Now, to the question, what do you mean by the term "pattern"? That usually applies to shotguns. What has your sight-in process consisted of? Did you first boresight (visually or with a collumnator) and what ranges were you starting at? What rings / bases are being used and are they good to go? Lots of variables. Can you try a different scope and see how it works? 
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  Anything been done to the rifle? Wood stock? Could be a bedding issue or something as simple as the action screws needing to be properly tightened.
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I had a similar problem with a Vanguard 7MMRM several years ago. Consulted Weatherby, checked all screws, switched from Meopta to Leupold scope, tried a number of factory loadings, used a Caldwell Lead Sled, had others shoot the rifle, all with little to no change in the scattered groupings. Nothing seemed to work. At the time, using only Weatherby ammo or sending it back to Weatherby and incurring their costs didn't seem like good options to me. Finally, I tried Federal Premium 160 grain Nosler partitions and the rifle settled in with 1.5" groups. You might keep trying additional ammo and allow adequate barrel cooling between shots. For me, opening the bolt and waiting 5 minutes between shots tend to help. A for-what-it's worth note. In those phone conversations with Weatherby and in response to my very direct questions, I did learn the target included in the rifle box showing a test fired group takes place at the factory in Japan. Once the Vanguard barreled action is shipped to California, it is restocked (my synthetic is apparently a Butler Creek stock) and sold to consumers. It would seem this restocking negates the test fire group shown on the target that comes with the new rifle. Incidently, my in-box target showed a 7/8" group with 150 grain Remington Core Lokts. Nowhere close to my range results. I do not know if this practice continues today.
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Thanks for the responses.

I changed the base to a one piece DNZ.  By Pattern I mean it may shoot two together and the third will be 6 inches to the right or left.  This is allowing for 5 to 10 minutes for the barrel to cool down.  Brought it in at 50 yds and then out to 100yds.The stock is synthetic, so no bedding issue according to Weatherby and I have checked all screws.

I guess my next step is changing scopes and if that doesn't work send it to Weatherby.  They would not accept it until I could prove I used their ammo and followed everything else on their list, which I have done.
 
I have twenty rifles in various calibers with a variety of different scopes and I have never had a problem like this before.
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Sell it and buy something else.... sorry but if a company won't be willing to help I won't have their merchandise. just saying.
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Sad when it is brand new, but I think you are correct.
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Sell it and buy something else.... sorry but if a company won't be willing to help I won't have their merchandise. just saying.


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OOPS time to trade it on a SAVAGE OR A TIKKA.  Go back to the gunstore where you bought it and trade it.  Lots of fun calibers out there  6.5 Creedmore,  7mm08,  280 Rem  308  look for what you can find brass and ammo for.  
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