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Well this one I'm surprised to have to be posting about. I would have never thought that it would be so hard to find information on corrective Lens bow sights. Now I am not referring to the peep; but instead a lens that can be mounted down stream of the sight pins.

You see I can see the pins fine with out my glasses but everything else past three feet away is a victim of my severe astigmatism. And I don't have to tell you how hard it is to hit a target well when you have to choose between the five X-rings that you are seeing when there is truly only one. 

What I would like would be one that could be fitted to my existing sight as I have a rather good one of considerable liking. But if forced to choose between being able to see or keep what I have I think seeing would be some what higher on the list.

Anyone have information on this? Thanks for any help!
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I don't exactly know what you mean,as I have a bad astigmatism in my right eye and have worn glasses all of my adult life. But as far as shooting a bow, even in tournaments, I never had a problem. 
 
As far as added on scopes, Spott Hogg has a add on scoped lense(usuallly a 4x) that attatches to their standard pin sight, as well as other brands. I just always viewed them as extra magnification and not being able to see better. I just never had any trouble in the 20-60 yrd courses with my glasses !
 


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I see o.k., but can't shoot a bow for poop. Big Smile
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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

I don't exactly know what you mean,as I have a bad astigmatism in my right eye and have worn glasses all of my adult life. But as far as shooting a bow, even in tournaments, I never had a problem. 
 
As far as added on scopes, Spott Hogg has a add on scoped lense(usuallly a 4x) that attatches to their standard pin sight, as well as other brands. I just always viewed them as extra magnification and not being able to see better. I just never had any trouble in the 20-60 yrd courses with my glasses !
 


Quite simply; I can not see close up with my glasses on thus the pins are blurry with them on. So I take them off and now the pin is clear but the target is blurry. I also have trouble seeing through the peep out of the side of my glasses but this is another matter all together.
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I got you . I think everyone experiences this to a degree, even non glasses wearers. I found that you have to make a choice...........either blurry pin/ clear target or vise versa. I have always focused on clear target and let the pin be blurry. It really doesn't matter .............kinda like people trying so hard to hold the pin dead on the spot instead of letting it float around the spot. It's easier to shoot well letting it float and even if it's a little blurry you will still hit dead on. Just takes some getting used to...............but I have never heard of anyone who has clear pins against a clear target background , when you really get down to it . I think some folks will say they do but when they go really try it they will find one is a little blurry .
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I don't how well it translates into bow shooting(I don't have one), but when shooting iron sights I was taught to have a clear front-sight post, and my target to be slightly fuzzy. Not to put aside your eye problems, but nobody can focus on two objects that far apart( one at 3 foot, the other at 30 yards) at the same time. IMO, if you can at least make out your target with out your glasses, go for the clear pin.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

I don't how well it translates into bow shooting(I don't have one), but when shooting iron sights I was taught to have a clear front-sight post, and my target to be slightly fuzzy. Not to put aside your eye problems, but nobody can focus on two objects that far apart( one at 3 foot, the other at 30 yards) at the same time. IMO, if you can at least make out your target with out your glasses, go for the clear pin.
Bingo!  The eye can only focus in one plane at a time.  This can be easily illustrated in handgunning.  You must always focus on the front sight...always...front sight front sight front sight.  The rear sight and the target are slightly to severly blurred, but the front sight is sharp and clear.
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try  the hind sight peep set up works pretty good
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sounds like good advice by all; i'll look in to the Hind sight as well.
thanks Big Smile
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Originally posted by hunterwingler hunterwingler wrote:

try  the hind sight peep set up works pretty good


This is very interesting; I have had a look at them on line and the make perfect since. How has your transitional been to this approach? And is it as accurate as a peep? 
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Yes, it's as accurate as a peep; your brain will automatically center the pin in the peep sight.  A kisser-button helps makes sure you're pulling the exact same distance each time.  The peep ceases to be seen after a short while; it's still there, but your conscious brain "ignores" it, while your subconscious keeps the pin you choose centered in the peep.  The peep is blurred/invisible, the pin is sharply focused and the target it an unfocused outline.

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Originally posted by Magnumdood Magnumdood wrote:

Yes, it's as accurate as a peep; your brain will automatically center the pin in the peep sight.  A kisser-button helps makes sure you're pulling the exact same distance each time.  The peep ceases to be seen after a short while; it's still there, but your conscious brain "ignores" it, while your subconscious keeps the pin you choose centered in the peep.  The peep is blurred/invisible, the pin is sharply focused and the target it an unfocused outline.



I'm confused my understanding was that you did away with the peep. I will visit there sight and do more reading. I am considering using this with my existing sight.
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Yeah, a hind sight does away with a peep. Most people use a kisser button for a refernce and then you line the hind sight up with your pin very similar to open sights on a rifle(same principle). I personally quit using a peep and only use a kisser button and touch the string to the tip of my nose. Much better for low light shooting and the only disadvantage I have is 50+ yard shooting. If I really want to stack them at 70-80 yards, I have to have a peep sight. I only have done this for mule deer hunts in the past.........for whitetail set ups I only have a 20-30-40 yrd pin now a days and shoot without a peep for the low light benefits!

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Originally posted by REP REP wrote:

Originally posted by hunterwingler hunterwingler wrote:

try  the hind sight peep set up works pretty good


This is very interesting; I have had a look at them on line and the make perfect since. How has your transitional been to this approach? And is it as accurate as a peep? 
  Accurate as a peep wouldnt know never used one b4, I've went from being all over tartget @30/40 yrds to  3 & 6 groups @ 30/40 yrds & anything @ 20 yrds and under I'm doting eye balls. but thats me
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